Democrats versus Republicans

[chucklesR]

Originally Posted by xort

Comparing Ken Starr on Clinton to the MSM on Obama??????

That is like comparing a Chevy Suburban to a slice of pizza

um, both use oil?

[wind_magic]

Merry Christmas Democrats, Republicans, and everyone not affiliated with either of those parties.

[sailaway21]

Originally Posted by TropicCat

Citing a Conservative web site article as "gospel" is just so typical. This is one more attempt to rewrite history in order to "establish" a Bush legacy. This wasn't even a good effort at revisionist writing. You just can't tell 300 million people they're better off when they are not.

"This reflected six consecutive years of economic growth from the Fourth Quarter of 2001 until the Fourth Quarter of 2007

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The Bush economy benefited only the wealthiest Americans. By all measures, the only way to demonstrate income growth was by citing growth in the stock market, which ignores the fact that 10 percent of Americans own 80 percent of all stocks.

"From 2000 to 2007, real GDP grew by more than 17 percent"

Patently False. This is the figure which forgets to include real inflation during the period. Incomes decreased during this period for all but the wealthy. At the same time the Bush tax cuts contributed to the largest budget deficits in our history Never has so much... benefited so few.


I'll stop here. This article is a self serving bunch of crap which is completely out of touch with facts and just wasn't worth commenting on in the first place.

WoW!

Same old crap, different thread!

While ten percent of the populace may own eighty percent of the stock, the vast majority of American's own stock of one sort or another. It might be better looked at by saying that, while the vast majority of Ferrari's are owned by the rich, the vast majority of American's own an automobile of some sort. And their reliance on that automobile may, in fact, be greater than the rich person's on the Ferrari.

I'm hardly wealthy but I can state that my "real" income has increased greatly since the year 2000. I'd be interested in the experiences of other sailnetters in this regard because something just doesn't smell right about the "facts" posted by TropicalConfusion above.

Anyone whom reads RealClearPolitics with an open mind is going to have a hard time calling it a conservative web-site. The only thing conservative about it appears to be that the majority of it's readers are conservative, as evidenced by the most popular articles listing. We have to take any conclusions drawn from that fact with a grain of salt due to the liberal reading deficiency. It's not that liberals cannot read, though actual cognition remains questionable, it's that they see no need to read, their minds being already made up on most matters. That they even read originally in making up their minds on those matters remains doubtful due tio their tendency to allow emotion to overrule rational thought. (g)

[BookofMaya]

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He rings the bell and the owner tells him the dog is in the backyard. The guy goes into the backyard and sees a Labrador retriever sitting there.>>

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“You Talk”” he asks.>>

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“Yep”, the lab replies.>>

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“So, what’s your story?”>>

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The Lab looks up and says, “Well, I discovered that I could talk when I was pretty young and I wanted to help the government, so I told the CIA about my gift, and in no time at all they had me jetting from country to country, sitting in rooms with spies and world leaders, because no one figure a dog would be eavesdropping. I was one of their most valuable spies for eight years running.”>>

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“But the jetting around really tired me out, and I knew I wasn’t getting any younger so I wanted to settle down. I signed up for a job at the airport to do some undercover security work, mostly wandering near suspicious characters and listening in.”>>

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“I uncovered some incredible dealings and was awarded a batch of medals. I got married, had a mess of puppies, and now I’m just retired.”>>

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“Ten dollars.”>>

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“Because he’s a liar. He didn’t do any of that ****.”>>

********Can you guess to which party does the three characters including the labrador belong to?*********

[sck5]

tropic cat is right. the income gains are clearly slanted toward the wealthier

Check the graph

Recent income gains went to those with highest income

[sailaway21]

Apparently not everyone is in agreement with sck5 and Tropiconfusion. Here's a whole book on the matter. AEI - Short Publications - New Research Debunks Common Wisdom The synopsis will serve to at least raise some doubts to your certitude.

We know that Tropistate has sustained some grievous setbacks in his real estate ventures, while sck5 has failed to divulge whether his fortunes have either declined or advanced. It's an unscientific survey but data nonetheless. Well?

Coupled with the above facts, that the top 1% of the income bracket is the most dynamic in terms of growth, it should come as no surprise that they pay the most in taxes as well. America Has a Highly Progressive Tax System — The American, A Magazine of Ideas
We're left to wonder just what Tropicredistribution thinks should be done about that!

Oh shoot! Here's some more on the evil rich: AEI - Short Publications - The Rich Pay Their Fair Share You think they'd be better at hanging on to all that money!

And, if you're really interested in why the rich are rich, and the poor remain poor, you might give consideration to the following article which explains a number of changing sociological factors, factors many might be unwilling to address, that have affected income distribution and income growth.
Inequality and the Sergey Brin Effect — The American, A Magazine of Ideas It seems that government action may be a factor but not in the area of tax policy alone. The problem for upward mobility goes deeper than that. You can get back to me with the Democrat plan to address those issues. (g)

[AdamLein]

Silly Sailaway, still citing Conservative sources. So typical. Don't you know, we can disregard them, because they're Conservative?

[sailaway21]

Maya,
I'll bite! The Lab's a Democrat, the seller is a Republican, and the buyer is an Independent. I'm probably way wrong. (g)

[sailaway21]

Here's another one for you, sck5. This one predicts the coming class war orchestrated by the Vice President-elect. RealClearMarkets - Articles - Average Joe Will Stir Up Class Envy

[sck5]

Do you think ANYONE outside of your right wing fantasy crowd wants a VP with that much power? Here is a news flash. We are about to have a president capable of thinking whole thoughts all by himself without needing to have them approved by the VP! Joe Biden is not going to be a VP like Cheney was and will have no power to "orchestrate a war", class based or otherwise, unlike his predecessor.