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It gets worse.

I have to preface this post by saying that, from where I'm sitting, every damn left wing whack-job in the US is riding a wave of euphoria that we'd hoped to never see again. That is the only explanation for what I'm hearing and reading lately. Today's radio listening brings forth some musings from a midget I'd thought we'd dispensed with during the late, unlamented Clinton administration. Somehow, I'd hoped he'd become the feature attraction is a minor league toss the dwarf contest in Saskatchewan but apparently Robert Reich is alive and well in Berkeley, CA.

Mr Reich advocated industrial policy back in the early 90's and it was fortunate that the economy was doing so well that President Clinton was able to appoint him Secretary of Labor and he was effectively never to heard from again. Until now.

Comes Mr. Reich to his natural turf, the airwaves of People's Radio International, or whatever the hell PRI stands for, to proclaim the revival of the welfare state!

Mr. Reich proclaims that we need to restore welfare as we knew it because...

1) Welfare benefits are currently capped at 60 months lifetime.
2) Part-time workers are not eligible for unemployment benefits.

He sees some things that fail to penetrate my cognitive core. The first is an unemployment rate of crisis proportions. We have a jobless rate of 7.2%. Now that's hardly desirable but we should bear in mind that Michigan has exceeded that rate for the last five years and the trains are still running on time though, they can't seem to pass a smoking ban. No problem as seen from the smoking section. And it wasn't until the Reagan recovery took hold that we considered anything under 6% unemployment to be impossible in a modern society. I mean, it was accepted statistical wisdom that 6% was about the rate of people who just didn't want to work. In any event, I think the "crisis" is prematurely announced.

Next on the docket is the lifting of welfare limitations. For those in Detroit I'd offer the rough calculation that 60 months is the equivalent of 5 years in some parts of the nation. That's about one year more than the average NFL career which, from where most of us are sitting, is of far more pressing concern. That's a college education, even allowing for getting really drunk on spring break and pursuing a short career on Girls gone Wild.

If that's not enough to get your attention, I'd refresh your memory as to Mr. Reich's claim to economic fame. He published a couple of books that were well received at places like the Kennedy School of Government and that's largely how he ended up as Slick Willy's batman. His treatises were on the subject of industrial policy, specifically government's role in determining what industries should be helped by government.

His latest, Supercapitalism, backs away somewhat from his prior desire to see government pick winners out of the soupcon of industry but still advocates massive government involvement in the workplace and industry. Just reading the reviews on Amazon of the book will suffice to give you a flavor of his thinking. Amazon.com: Supercapitalism: The Transformation of Business, Democracy, and Everyday Life (Vintage): Robert B. Reich: Books

Why should we be concerned? All four foot, ten inches of Mr. Reich is on President-elect Obama's transition team, economics division. Let's hope it's merely a sop to the left.

The larger point is that I'm hearing an awful lot of what sounds like a Great Society renewal effort, by Mr. Reich and quite a few others. Apparently nothing appeals like an old, bad idea. It was bad enough when all the talk was of a new New Deal.

Um, without sounding too crass, dare I say, thank goodness there's a war on? Of course, I'm assuming they've noticed.
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Thank you for your criticism. You are correct: "force" was a terrible choice of words. It felt wrong then, and is even more glaring seeing it here. "Encourage" is a much better word, and closer to my true thoughts. I couldn't leave this thread with that glaring error. Thanks again.
This thread has made it plain that there is little common ground between those who think that the government can solve problems, and those who think the government is the problem. But from the Ninth Ward of New Orleans to the management at AIG, when things go into the crapper, people turn to the government, like it or not. Maybe we should insist that, when the government responds, their response is competent.
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It'd be a lot easier if the ninth ward, a government construct, were itself competent. Otherwise, a nice summary of our differences. We on our side have only history with which to defend ourselves.
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Is it just me, or does Bambi seem to be picking people for the areas where he isn't going to come close to keeping his promises, so he can blame them and throw them under the bus (at least he has experience at that)?
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Is it just me, or does Bambi seem to be picking people for the areas where he isn't going to come close to keeping his promises, so he can blame them and throw them under the bus (at least he has experience at that)?
If so then it had better be a 4x4 bus with some huge tires and a lot of ground clearance ..
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Funny how the domino's fall when it's your finger doing the pushing instead the mouth doing the talking:

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BARACK Obama said last night he did not expect to honour his campaign pledge to close the Guantanamo Bay prison camp in his first 100 days in office, but the US president-elect reiterated his vow to shut the facility eventually.
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Yep, the issue gets a whole lot more complicated when you're the one responsible for America's safety. According to this article, 61 former detainees from Guantanamo returned to the battle field. Any bets on how hard the democratic legislature is going to push to close it down?

World News Australia - Ex-Guantanamo detainees 'resume terror fight'
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Gitmo is an area where the Dem's should be careful for what they wish for. It's one thing to conveniently let slide the fact that the Dem leadership has been briefed at every step of the way on Gitmo and the waterboarding there (never once raising an objection) and quite another when you now control both branches of government and have to decide just what "your" policy is going to be.

It ought to be dawning on a few of these rocket scientists that Gitmo is a symbol of just how open we actually are about these matters. Most any other country would have them locked away in a secret location with no access to anyone. The detainees would then eventually just "disappear".

Coupled with that openness is the fact of the specific selection of Gitmo itself. It's a very measure of how seriously we take our laws and Constitution that Gitmo, on foreign soil, was selected. In a decision where all choices are less than satisfactory, Gitmo offered at least the lack of any constitutional contortions that might needlessly distract from a the pressing issue of required long-term detention.

Just about anybody with a press card or status as a member of the government has been through Gitmo if desirous. There've yet to be any plausible claims of inappropriate conduct there in the treatment of the prisoners in general. It's not even clear as to where the waterboarding of prisoners took place. I suspect that the Obama administration will have more difficulty in closing Gitmo than is widely appreciated.
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For those of you who worried about a third Bush term ...... don't read this
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So, I am asking this question totally sincerely, out of a desire to know the answer: What evidence is there that the Bush administration's security measures did in fact protect the U.S. against terrorist attacks?

Where there some attacks that were thwarted in the prep stages? Right before they were executed? It would be great to see some kind of report showing the DHS's successes.

This going to be important information for the incoming administration, to decide whether they want to keep the unpleasant new laws, add to them, revert back, or whatever.
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