Democrats versus Republicans

[Sailormon6]

Originally Posted by sck5

Bush's Final Approval Rating: 22 Percent
CBS News/N.Y. Times Poll Finds President Will Leave Office With Lowest Final Approval Rating Ever

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Jan. 16, 2009

link - Bush's Final Approval Rating: 22 Percent, CBS News/N.Y. Times Poll Finds President Will Leave Office With Lowest Final Approval Rating Ever - CBS News

President Bush served two terms, and, unlike his predecessor, President Bush emerged without being impeached or convicted of perjury, so maybe you shouldn't be crowing so proudly. It remains to be seen whether Mr. Obama will even be elected for a second term. During the next 4 years, we'll surely discover whether the voters have elected a glib phony or a real President. For a man who was elected on the promise that he would bring change to Washington, I've never seen such a collection of political hacks, cronies and good ole' boys and girls as his appointments. Notwithstanding the fawning of a press that is so biased that it has abandoned all pretense of balance, he's off to a miserable start, and he hasn't even been sworn in yet.

[xort]

so what's so bad about appointing a tax cheat to run the irs?
that's change we can believe in!

[US27inKS]

Originally Posted by xort

so what's so bad about appointing a tax cheat to run the irs?
that's change we can believe in!

Nothing at all apparently. Certainly no worse than hiring a Sec. of State whose husband is getting rich off foreign donations.

[sck5]

Hey did you ever wonder why Bush fell from 90% approval to 22%?

By the way, 22 means not even all repubs like him.

Could it be that he messed up? Majorly mishandled his responsibility? Thats what everyone in the world thinks except 22% of Americans, and you apparently are one of them.

But hey, Bush is almost history, praise the lord. Now we can move on to Obama! Maybe you dont like who he picked but the real question is whether they will make our lives better or worse. No way to tell that until they actually get in and start to do stuff.

(and should we be surprised that conservative repubs dont like obama's picks? of course not, what did you expect, that he would pick the same types that brought us a 22% popularity?

[wind_magic]

Originally Posted by sck5

Hey did you ever wonder why Bush fell from 90% approval to 22%?

By the way, 22 means not even all repubs like him.

Could it be that he messed up?

Not defending Bush, but I don't see what popularity has to do with doing the right thing. One CNN/Time poll found that 80% of Americans believe the government is hiding knowledge of aliens. Do you really want the guy who sold you a toner cartridge to be the person who decides American foreign policy ? That's why we have a Representative government.

[knothead]

I am rather encouraged at how our Prez elect has started to show signs of backing off some of his campaign rhetoric. To me that shows that he can think on his feet. As he is becoming more aware of what the job entails, his idealism is being reined in a little.

Re torture: I had a conversation with a very liberal friend last night concerning the use of torture. He railed against it and claimed that it should be outlawed entirely. Bush's policies on the subject are one of the biggest problems he has with the President. Yet when I pressed him, he admitted that there was a point where a situation might be so dire and the consequences so great that torture could be justified. I think that just about anyone, if they are honest with themselves, will admit that if a threat hits close enough to home, they would do anything to stop it. Including torture.

It doesn't matter if a person charges a million dollars. If they are selling their body, it's still prostitution.

[PBzeer]

I might feel encouraged too, if there was anything in his past that pointed to any type of achievement or effort that wasn't directly related to the advancement of Barack Obama. As it is, we have someone who's only apparent skill is running for office.

[knothead]

Originally Posted by PBzeer

I might feel encouraged too, if there was anything in his past that pointed to any type of achievement or effort that wasn't directly related to the advancement of Barack Obama. As it is, we have someone who's only apparent skill is running for office.

There's very little past to draw from.

[sck5]

"someone who's only apparent skill is running for office"

there was that time he was first in his class at Harvard Law school. Perhaps you have heard of it. They say it is an OK law school.

or that other time he taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago. They say that is an ok school too. The constitution might have something to do with being president. Of course, if you are for Bush you might not believe that.

[PBzeer]

Unfortunately, Obama was only in the top 10%, not number one. He just IS the One. Also, as editor of the Harvard Law Review (an elected position, not an academic one) he contributed no published papers. In fact, his work there was so important, you can't find out what he actually did. His college records are safely hidden away from public scrutiny.

During his twelve years at Chicago Law, he had zero published papers, again. And his focus was one racial issues, not the Constitution as a whole.

Now, I would certainly admit that makes him qualified to be a dean at some small college, but, I fail to see where these merely academic achievements have any bearing on his probable performance as President. That he went 14 years in an academic environment without publishing one single scholarly work shows either a lack of effort, or a serious attempt at not taking a position on anything.