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Read that earlier today. The main thing I get out of it, especially in conjunction with the major donors to Obama's inauguration is, is that's it's a stimulus for political contributions.

We've been in imminent collapse since October and the only thing that's changed since then is the size of the deficit.
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Read that earlier today. The main thing I get out of it, especially in conjunction with the major donors to Obama's inauguration is, is that's it's a stimulus for political contributions.

We've been in imminent collapse since October and the only thing that's changed since then is the size of the deficit.
I said that last week in this same thread.

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I said that last week in this same thread.

Sigh.
Yeah, I remember reading that you did a calculation and arrived at nearly an identical conclusion. Excuse me for providing a third party link that backed you up.
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It's considered gauche and possibly racist to comment on the amount of money being spent on this presidential inaugural so we might as well laugh, if a bit hollowly, at it all. This'll do the trick:
The Inaugural Disaster by Mark Steyn on National Review Online
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It's considered gauche and possibly racist to comment on the amount of money being spent on this presidential inaugural so we might as well laugh, if a bit hollowly, at it all. This'll do the trick:
The Inaugural Disaster by Mark Steyn on National Review Online
But Sway, the Huffington Post has a link to a story that said that 150 million $us number was completely fabricated by AP ...

Source: AP Fabricates Cost Of Obama Inauguration

Personally I don't care, who cares about 150 million $us when you're spending 2 trillion $us this year - we're going through 140 million $us in deficit spending every hour of every day, who gives a &^$% about another 150 million $us. If we could just convince them to have five or ten Presidential inaugurations every day and stop spending all the rest of the money they're spending we'd be doing okay ...
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I think I may understand what the big deal is about today, to so many people. Unlike most conservatives, they don't truely believe in equality of opportunity and so, rather than seeing today as affirmation of that basic concept of the American Ideal, they only see the outcome, without relation to the concept. So while it matters little, to conservatives what gender, race or ethnicity the incoming President is, because we don't believe those factors are limiting, to others, they are a hurdle to be overcome. And as such, should be celebrated, because ratio's and percentages are how they view such things. They reflect, not on the fact he was able to win, but that he did win. As if that somehow validates their thinking.

Remember here, we are talking about the concept, not the sheer reality. There is, and always will be, inequality of outcomes. It is the confusing that with the equality of opportunity that leads to the myriad liberal social programs that seek to equate outcome and opportunity.

So while so many see only the first black President, conservatives see only the 44th. What seems to go unnoticed is that for a true sense of equality to prevail, we have to stop thinking in terms of the first this hypen that or the other. The counter-intuitive notion that celebrating diversity, somehow, magical, fosters togetherness should be dumped on the trash heap of ill thought out ideas. Right on top of "spending our way to prosperity".
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Some posters showed up in Seattle that have created a stir. Folks are wondering what they mean. Reminds me of "1984".



Meaning Of Obama Signs In Downtown Seattle A Mystery - News Story - KIRO Seattle
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