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None of those terms above would apply to the left..
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So, Obama is on the right?
Everything he has done to this point, increases the role of government in the decision making process of daily living. But I guess that isn't authoritarian when done by the left.
Opposition to class conflict? He's based every move on an "us vs them" platform.
But, beyond that, cite, if you will, a concrete example of how any of the list has been, or proposed to be, put into practice by the right.
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And I'm still waiting for someone to explain how advocating LESS government intervention is in any way, shape or form, authoritarian.
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You actually equate a private corporate pageant - run by Donald Trump - which allowed a drug and sex crazed winner last year to keep the crown......to some sort of political movement or outlook?
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One need not use Carrie Prejean as the example, choose any opponent of gay marriage and the example remains valid. ANY opponent of gay marriage, EXCEPT Obama in particular and liberals in general, is automatically termed anti-homosexual.
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So, Obama is on the right?
Opposition to class conflict? He's based every move on an "us vs them" platform.
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And that specifically indicates he is not a fascist. The left recognizes the role of class as a driving force.
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And I'm still waiting for someone to explain how advocating LESS government intervention is in any way, shape or form, authoritarian.
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John - you are a conservative, not a fascist. You might also be a libertarian. Or you might be your own person, beyond labels.
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One can not advocate a "fair society", ie: equal outcomes, as do the left by being proponents of class warfare. While Marx certainly supported your statement, coined it actually, the American left decries it. At least publicly.
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I think most of those could be construed as the realm of the right wing in this country......
Some of them are moot points...like anti-communist.
The right, by and large, is strongly anti-intellectual, authoritarian, etc.
Yes, there are exceptions, but strong support of figures like Palin show the strongest possible anti-intellectualism possible. We're not talking someone of average knowledge...
None of those terms above would apply to the left....
Back to the basics here - WWII Germany was right wing. It exhibits virtually NO ideals which are compatible with the left. I'm not saying that those on the right are that FAR right...surely not.....but the Limbaugh/Palin sect is damn close.
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Dude, joke of the day is in Off Topic but that was pretty funny none the less 
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John - you are a conservative, not a fascist. You might also be a libertarian. Or you might be your own person, beyond labels.
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I accept any label that reflects my actions. I discard any that reflect other's perceptions of what those actions mean beyond their actual results.
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One can not advocate a "fair society", ie: equal outcomes, as do the left by being proponents of class warfare. While Marx certainly supported your statement, coined it actually, the American left decries it. At least publicly.
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"Any effort to restore confidence in our economy must start not on Wall Street, but in Main Street, and that's what the credit card situation is all about -- it's about Main Street," Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV) said.
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