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yep. after the war they were tried, convicted and summarily executed by a military tribunal. it wasn't your country that was attacked, not that there would be much you could do even if it was. yeah, we bailed your butts out too, but that's ok. we expect that out of people who would have their slice of the pie from the plate of someone else. ya got nothing, so ya wanna take from everyone to have your own. that's not the way the game's played, dude. bake yer own freakin' pie and after you put YOUR sweat into doing so, you can decide if you wanna share or not.........
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this is my pie. want some? ask nicely........
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This English teacher has phrased it the best I've seen yet:

Tomatoes and Cheap Labor

CHEAP TOMATOES?
This should make everyone think, be you Democrat, Republican or Independent

From a California school teacher - - -


'As you listen to the news about the student protests over illegal immigration, there are some things that you should be aware of:

I am in charge of the English-as-a-second-language department at a large southern California high school which is designated a Title 1 school, meaning that its students average lower socioeconomic and income levels.

Most of the schools you are hearing about, South Gate High, Bell Gardens , Huntington Park , etc., where these students are protesting, are also Title 1 schools.

Title 1 schools are on the free breakfast and free lunch program. When I say free breakfast, I'm not talking a glass of milk and roll -- but a full breakfast and cereal bar with fruits and juices that would make a Marriott proud. The waste of this food is monumental, with trays and trays of it being dumped in the trash uneaten. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)

I estimate that well over 50% of these students are obese or at least moderately overweight. About 75% or more DO have cell phones. The school also provides day care centers for the unwed teenage pregnant girls (some as young as 13) so they can attend class without the inconvenience of having to arrange for babysitters or having family watch their kids.
(OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)

I was ordered to spend $700,000 on my department or risk losing funding for the upcoming year even though there was little need for anything; my budget was already substantial. I ended up buying new computers for the computer learning center, half of which, one month later, have been carved with graffiti by the appreciative students who obviously feel humbled and grateful to have a free education in America
(OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)

I have had to intervene several times for young and substitute teachers whose classes consist of many illegal immigrant students here in the country less then 3 months who raised so much hell with the female teachers, calling them 'Putas' whores and throwing things that the teachers were in tears.

Free medical, free education, free food, day
care etc., etc, etc. Is it any wonder they feel entitled to not only be in this country but to demand rights, privileges and entitlements?

To those who want to point out how much these illegal immigrants contribute to our society because they LIKE their gardener and housekeeper and they like to pay less for tomatoes: spend some time in the real world of illegal immigration and see the TRUE costs.

Higher insurance, medical facilities closing ,higher medical costs, more crime, lower standards of education in our schools, overcrowding, new diseases etc., etc, etc . For me, I'll pay more for tomatoes.

We need to wake up. The guest worker program will be a disaster because we won't have the guts to enforce it Does anyone in their right mind really think they will voluntarily leave and return?


It does, however, have everything to do with culture: A third-world culture that does not value education, that accepts children getting pregnant and dropping out of school by 15 and that refuses to assimilate , and an American culture that has become so weak and worried about 'politically correctness' that we don't have the will to do anything about it.

If this makes your blood boil, as it did mine, forward this to everyone you know.

CHEAP LABOR? Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about?

Business doesn't want to pay a decent wage.

Consumers don't want expensive produce.

Government will tell you Americans don't want the jobs.

But the bottom line is cheap labor. The phrase 'cheap labor' is a myth, a farce, and a lie. There is no such thing as 'cheap labor.'

Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children. He takes a job for $5.00 or 6.00/hour. At that wage, with six dependents, he pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he files an Income Tax Return, he gets an 'earned income credit' of up to $3,200 free.

He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent

He qualifies for food stamps.

He qualifies for free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care.

His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school.
He requires bilingual teachers and books.

He qualifies for relief from high energy bills.

If they are or become, aged, blind or disabled , they qualify for SSI. Once qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare. All of this is at (our) taxpayer's expense

He doesn't worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners insurance.

Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and printed material.

He and his family receive the equivalent of $20.00 to $30.00/hour in benefits.

Working Americans are lucky to have $5.00 or $6.00/hour left after paying their bills and his.

The American taxpayers also pay for increased crime, graffiti and trash clean-up.

Cheap labor? YEAH RIGHT! Wake up people!

THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING TO THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES FOR EITHER PARTY. 'AND WHEN THEY LIE TO US AND DON'T DO AS THEY SAY, WE SHOULD REPLACE THEM AT ONCE!'

not only the presidential candidates, but every elected government official who doesn't have the backbone to stand up for our country.........
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ssneade - you might what to learn how to use snopes:

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An email purportedly from the spouse of a teacher in California has been circulating for about a year - it is a rant about immigrants and all the 'subsidies' they get from good ol' American taxpayers. Its origin is uncertain as there is no identification of the specific school or teacher.

But the author got their 'facts' all wrong. Here's an excerpt:

Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children. He takes a job for $5.00 or 6.00/hour. At that wage, with six dependents, he pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he files an Income Tax Return, he gets an "earned income credit" of up to $3,200 free.

He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent.

He qualifies for food stamps.

He qualifies for free (no deductible, no CO-pay) health care.

His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school.
He requires bilingual teachers and books.

He qualifies for relief f rom (sic) high energy bills.

If they are or become, aged, blind or disabled, they qualify for SSI. Once qualified for SSI the y(sic) can qualify for Medi care. All of this is at (our) taxpayer's expense."

notice there are NO sources cited, no identification of the specific school or teacher. in fact, in two minutes i found out this nonsense has been circulating for months, with no substantiation.

Among the other 'inaccuracies' on this are the following:

Working illegal aliens do NOT get an earned income tax credit.

in order to file a tax return the alien must have an SSN which by definition they do not. Instead, any illegal alien who does file uses an ITIN. They do not qualify for section 8 housing. They do not qualify for SSI if they are blind or disabled. They do not get food stamps. They do not get medicaid or medicare. Kids of illegal aliens may qualify for medicaid if they were born in the US (depending on family income and other criteria).

references
http://info.dhhs.state.nc.us/olm/man...MA_AL19-03.htm
The Characteristics of Unauthorized Immigrants in California, Los Angeles County, and the United States
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I like this guy a lot. He's the same guy who did the stimulus predictions vs reality in pennies and the national debt road trip.

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If the Obama News Network has this to say about the messiah, just think how bad it really is going to be.

Obama tax pledge unrealistic - White House- msnbc.com
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If the Obama News Network has this to say about the messiah, just think how bad it really is going to be.

Obama tax pledge unrealistic - White House- msnbc.com
Somewhere there are college kids who have turned all of this into a drinking game.
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remember jack, it's our country, not yours
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remember jack, it's our country, not yours
I know, I lived in Houston for a year. You can run it anyway you like.

I was concerned about internet myths. As a teacher I taught critical thinking.
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I know, I lived in Houston for a year. You can run it anyway you like.

I was concerned about internet myths. As a teacher I taught critical thinking.
It seems ironic that many who advocate critical thinking are incapable of actually doing it. The concept of critical thinking seems to have a special appeal for egotists who see themselves as critical thinkers, and anyone who disagrees with them is an idiot.
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