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For something back to the orginal topic ...
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I think Jody is missing the point that I'm trying to make. It's not the Fed's job to build roads and bridges. It's not the Fed's job to educate our children. Name me ONE federal program that works, aside from the constitutionally mandated DoD.

Aside from the dubious constitutionality of the Fed's building or contributing to the building of roads, why should my state get 92 cents back of every highway tax dollar it sends to Washington, DC? Si I can subsidize the Long Island Railroad? Which is what the money does. Where the hell do you think all that money came from for the Big Dig in Boston? Do you think that the cost over-runs would have been nearly as significant if Massachusetts had been soley responsible for funding the project? As PJ O'Rourke says, 'this is like giving whisky and guns to teen-age boys". What do we expect to happen.

That bridge that collapsed in Minnesota is Minnesota's problem. Where the hell do we get the idea that the Fed's are responsible for everything? I'm tired of my money paying for lousy roads and lousy schools in your lousy state. I've got lousy roads and schools in my own state to deal with.

Every non-DoD dollar that goes to DC, goes with a constituency, ie...somebody who's already got their eye on it. DoD is not immune but, left to their own devices they tend to put the naval bases in the states with ports and usually can be counted on to put the B-52 bases somewhere other than Brooklyn. It takes a federal bureaucrat, empowered by a politician, to end up with a Coast Guard facility in Oklahoma! Yeah, Oklahoma. That's where your USCG license exams go to be graded and the new tests drawn up.

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It appears you'd best review not only your W-2's but the DoD budget for the Reagan years. Reagan closed useless bases so you could get the pay increase he shoved through. During the post-Viet Nam years, especially under Carter, military spending was slashed and the enlisted men took it on the chin. I sailed with guys, 1st class petty officers no less, in the early eighties who wives were home collecting food stamps-because they qualified and that was the only way to make ends meet. You're obviously confusing the requirements of the US Naval Service with your own desires. I ran into similar individuals at sea with the same problem; begging the question, if you didn't want to go to sea, why'd you join the Navy? But then, in the Merchant Marine we spend all of our time at sea, it's what we do.

I'm not going to get into the teachers squabble; there's another older thread somewhere on it. Suffice it to say that the days of poor teachers are long over. And I might add that test scores are still down. I have some thoughts on professional educators, and they're not pretty.
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John,
And here I was thinking that i was the only one who'd noticed that fact.

Republicans don't care if their canidate is from the Moon s long as he's right on the issues. Dem's concern is;which side of the Moon the dark or the light side
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For Republicans, if events continue on in the direction they are going in this election, probably the best hope Republicans have for the future is a landslide Democratic victory in the House, Senate, and Executive. The proverbial "enough rope to hang themselves ..."
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Hate to say it Windy, but that's about where I'm sitting. I do plan a local limited insurgency along the same lines against my RINO congressional representative. You heard it here first, Sway's voting Democrat.
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I'm not going to get into the teachers squabble; there's another older thread somewhere on it. Suffice it to say that the days of poor teachers are long over. And I might add that test scores are still down. I have some thoughts on professional educators, and they're not pretty.

Here's one for Cap'n Sway.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/keillor...pinion/keillor

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You heard it here first, Sway's voting Democrat.
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Hope for Michigan?

For those of us stuck in the worst managed state in the Union, here's an absolutely capital idea. (For those not living in the water-winter-wonderland, it should be mentioned that Michigan is in the recession you're all contemplating and has been for some tiime. Our current governor and legislature felt that raising taxes was the only responsible approach to such matters. After all, it's not right that the state government suffer due to economic forces beyond it's control!)

This could actually happen and it's likely it would work. I am a much happier camper at just the thought. And I've been living in a pretty wet tent of late!

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q...NhZWRhM2E2YWU=
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not so fast with the worst managed state - i live in ny and can tell you two things:

1. you have some good competition for "worst managed" (I sure wish I had your state taxes instead of mine)
2. those 8 cents you are missing out of each tax dollar sure arent subsidizing NY - we are also short when it comes to our "balance of payments" with the Feds
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