The Netherlands emulates, uh, Canada?

[sailaway21]

From our European desk comes news of fresh insanities within the Dutch world. Van Gogh; dead. Hirsi Ali; abroad at an undisclosed location. Wilders; now in the dock.

Another example of what happens when your rights are endowed by the government and not the Creator. Anyone who believes that free speech is one of our preeminent rights will be interested in the events described in the article below.
The American Spectator : Death to Free Speech in the Netherlands

[ebs001]

We just don't beleve that propogation of hate is an inalienable right. You have one wierd Creator.

[knothead]

Originally Posted by ebs001

We just don't beleve that propogation of hate is an inalienable right. You have one wierd Creator.

[Rockter]

ebs :

Wait to see where it goes next.

Your creator will be more merciful than them.

Watch this space.

[bubb2]

Ebs,
"Even more disturbing is that the State of Jordan, most likely acting as a stalking horse for the OIC, has issued a request for Wilders' extradition to stand trial in Jordan for blasphemy of Islam, a crime for which Shari'a law declares the penalty to be death."

So do the right thing and send him Jordan. Where there is no hate! Maybe just Maybe he is not filled with hate and he just is accurately reporting.

[ebs001]

I just wanted to point out that what SA is calling an inalienable right is not an inalienable right. The first 10 amendments to the constitution which are also known as the bill of rights are not given by the Creator but are man made. The inalienable rights are life liberty and the persute of happiness. SA just added another one - the propogation of hate. Hate crimes go against those inalienable rights stated in the Declaration of Independence.
BTW, Knotty nice self potrait.

[PBzeer]

There is no liberty without freedom of speech.

[knothead]

The point of the cartoon ebs001, and I'm kinda surprised that you missed it, is that if you believe that the man's effort to educate people about the threat of radical Islam is "inciting hatred and discrimination", you're not being very realistic or else you are uninformed.

[erps]

I just wanted to point out that what SA is calling an inalienable right is not an inalienable right. The first 10 amendments to the constitution which are also known as the bill of rights are not given by the Creator but are man made.

I may be wrong, but I thought the first ten amendments where there to preserve rights that already existed and didn't create anything. A previous important American document indicates that at least some of these rights were recognized to already exist.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,

[ebs001]

Erps, no they were created by man. Life, liberty and the persute of happiness were created by The Creator
PB, a freedom can only exist when inalienable rights are preserved. We have laws agianst slander for example. Thus freedoms are never an absolute.
Knotty, I'm not the one with my head in the sand. I'm not surprised you missed it.