The Politics Forum

[painkiller]

CD is simply stating that he will DEFINITELY moderate this forum when he's moderating it, but that moderation will be light but only when moderation is not, in fact, being conducted by him or anyone UNLESS one of the other persons designated as moderators act in that capacity in regards to this forum.

[AE28]

Originally Posted by painkiller

CD is simply stating that he will DEFINITELY moderate this forum when he's moderating it, but that moderation will be light but only when moderation is not, in fact, being conducted by him or anyone UNLESS one of the other persons designated as moderators act in that capacity in regards to this forum.

This deserves a brightly lit light bulb icon!!!

[chall03]

Hmm.
You could be banned for actions in this forum....
If I was banned then I would consider myself having been fairly heavily moderated....rather than lightly moderated....

Lightly moderated would be something along the lines getting tickled with a feather duster wouldn't it? or at worst a playful slap?

[captdave57]

This may open your eyes.
Well read this:


Subject: the proposal






"The Proposal"



When a company falls on difficult times, one of the things that seems to happen is they reduce their staff and workers. The remaining workers need to find ways to continue to do a good job or risk that their job would be eliminated as well. Wall street, and the media normally congratulate the CEO for making this type of "tough decision", and his board of directors gives him a big bonus.
Our government should not be immune from similar risks.
Therefore: Reduce the House of Representatives from the current 435 members to 218 members and Senate members from 100 to 50 (one per State). Also reduce remaining staff by 25%.

Accomplish this over the next 8 years. (two steps / two elections) and of course this would require some redistricting.
Some Yearly Monetary Gains Include:
$44,108,400 for elimination of base pay for congress. (267 members X $165,200 pay / member / yr.)
$97,175,000 for elimination of the above people's staff. (estimate $1.3 Million in staff per each member of the House, and $3 Million in staff per each member of the Senate every year)
$240,294 for the reduction in remaining staff by 25%.
$7,500,000,000 reduction in pork barrel ear-marks each year. (those members whose jobs are gone. Current estimates for total government pork earmarks are at $15 Billion / yr)
The remaining representatives would need to work smarter and would need to improve efficiencies. It might even be in their best interests to work together for the good of our country?
We may also expect that smaller committees might lead to a more efficient resolution of issues as well. It might even be easier to keep track of what your representative is doing.
Congress has more tools available to do their jobs than it had back in 1911 when the current number of representatives was established. (telephone, computers, cell phones to name a few)
Note:
Congress did not hesitate to head home when it was a holiday, when the nation needed a real fix to the economic problems. Also, we have 3 senators that have not been doing their jobs for the past 18+ months (on the campaign trail) and still they all have been accepting full pay. These facts alone support a reduction in senators & congress.
Summary of opportunity:
$44,108,400 reduction of congress members.
$282,100,000 for elimination of the reduced house member staff.
$150,000,000 for elimination of reduced senate member staff.
$59,675,000 for 25% reduction of staff for remaining house members.
$37,500,000 for 25% reduction of staff for remaining senate members.
$7,500,000,000 reduct ion in pork added to bills by the reduction of congress members.
$8,073,383,400 per year, estimated total savings. (that's 8-BILLION just to start!)
Big business does these types of cuts all the time.
If Congresspersons were required to serve 20, 25 or 30 years (like everyone else) in order to collect retirement benefits there is no telling how much we would save. Now they get full retirement after serving only ONE term.
IF you are happy how the Congress spends our taxes, then just delete this message. IF you are NOT at all happy, then I assume you know what to do.


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Sun shine & Fair winds
Captdave57

[PBzeer]

Simply means unless it is a totally egregious posting, no action will be taken.

[Cruisingdad]

I am going to reiterate that you must find a way to make your points here without making them personal.

I will also add that those who bait others into losing their temper are just as bad as those that do. Let's all remember that we are friends here. For those that cannot remember that, I highly reccomend the Ignore button.

- CD

[captdave57]

(I) think about what is shared, and (I) decide how (I) feel about it. Then (I) decide if (I) want to share any of (MY) feelings about it.
You can not make (ME) feel anything, (I) decide how (I) feel, and what (I) do with the feelings. {BUT} thanks for your input. If words bring an idea to you, be glad that you can think. What you do with that idea is your responsibility

Originally Posted by Cruisingdad

I am going to reiterate that you must find a way to make your points here without making them personal.

I will also add that those who bait others into losing their temper are just as bad as those that do. Let's all remember that we are friends here. For those that cannot remember that, I highly reccomend the Ignore button.

- CD

[Cruisingdad]

I have had many people tell me to shut this thing down. I have had many people tell me to keep it as they love it.

It has been decided that it is better to keep it. THere are many reasons for this, the biggest one is that many members like it. Fine. Another reason, which many older sailnet members will remember, is that politics and war and all that used to just get stuck in every thread or forum. No way to keep that out. What we have done now is to make a dedicated area to allow people to discuss it and a dedicated area to put those threads that should be here.

Everyone is happier, for the most part.

- CD