Unite Left Wing Evangelicals!

[painkiller]

Originally Posted by HermitScott

If the bible isn't telling the truth about some things, how can you be sure that it is telling the truth about ohter things, like Jesus or your salvation?
Most religious texts are so full of holes I can't believe any one would believe anything they say. The mormons used to claim there was people living on the moon dressed as quakers.
That is what makes the bible different than any other book. Even my sophmore level physics book has errors that they believed to be true at the time 8 years ago that they no longer believe to be true.
With respect to you sir, I do not believe that you have studied the bible.

I just googled "bible fallacies" and a bunch of stuff turned up. Check out Bible Blunders. I'm sure at least one of their points is correct, proving that the Bible is not 100% true. I think wind_magic's position is the most reasonable. That the Bible has errors, but it doesn't affect the overall message.

I mean, think about it. The "Bible" is not a single book. It is composed of stories, poems, essays, letters, etc. written by many people over a long period of time in a variety of languages. Some of the parts of the Bible are themselves histories written by people after the fact, writing as historians. So how can you expect 100% accuracy through all of this? Are you telling me, that NOTHING is incorrect in the Bible? There are NO predictions or prophecies that did not come true? That EVERY person that contributed EVERY word and EVERY translator of EVERY word of EVERY version was so well-managed by God himself that not a single untrue or inaccurate word remains? Come on.

Hermit, I appreciate your dedication, but not even a pastor or a priest will admit that the Bible is not without SOME flaws. It was written by MAN regardless of whether or not you believe that God exists and inspired the Bible's creation.

And besides, how do you explain the books that are present in SOME Bibles? The Catholic Bible has more books than Protestant Bibles. The Catholics believe that their extra books are just as holy as the other ones. If that is God's word, 100% true, etc., then why have the Protestants omitted them? Should God be edited?

[wind_magic]

I am going to exit this discussion for my own reasons.

"And ye shall seek me, and find me when ye shall search for me with all your heart." - Jeremiah 29:13

[HermitScott]

Painkiller-If you look at the logic here, it will show you what I mean by "the strong delusion". I can show you why each of those 'phallysies' are imaginary or just written by people that don't know what they mean. But that won't matter to you. Even by your own words it(and I 'm paraphrasing) there would have to be some kind of a 4000 year continuing miracle for there not to be statments that were false somewhere in the bible with all those cooks in the kitchen. I do not have a complete understanding of the bible. But much of the athiest propaganda is perpetuated because athiest don't read the bible and therefore can't check the facts. There are parts of the atheistic belief that you don't understand but you put your faith in that they will or at least have an explination apart from god.
The apocrypha is the ommitted or added(which ever side of that you are on)
They are added to the old testament by past popes. They really don't have much in the way of content. They are more catholic filler I guess.
On what books qualify...? It is a natural selection if you will that is guided by 'THE PLAN'. I explain; when Jesus quoted the scriptures he didn't qualilfy any particular translation, he used what was commonly accepted by most Jews of the day. So what book would translation would you say is most commonly accepted by those that put their faith in Christ?
One thing I have to say here, I can't ever prove there is a god. He has never lit a bush on fire and spoke to me from it. Faith is this; I choose to live like god exists and the bible is true. Why was I once an athiest and now I am a christian? When I started investigating why the bible is the best selling book, chance was twisted over and over until I came to believe that god was working in my life. Now that I understand the bible more. I can test god's word. I do what he says and see if the results are as promised.

[HermitScott]

Painkiller??? Did you evolve into a higher being and are now above discussion with the likes of me?