Obama Foreign Policy

[sailaway21]

I thought we'd separate the Obama administration's foreign endeavors from the domestic.

Having announced during the campaign that he'd bomb Pakistan he has proceeded to do so.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/15/wo...emc=rss&src=ig

What number of innocents perished among the thirty in apparently unknown. Ably assisted by the senior Senator from California, whom alleges that the Predator flight originated from within Pakistan itself, the Obama foreign policy team is off to a fast start on it's pursuit of, well, the Bush doctrine. Of course they're not quite as diplomatic about it; Bush never announced he was going to violate the sovereign borders or an ally.

[sck5]

what a hypocrite you are. I havent heard you say word one about the thousands of innocents dead in Iraq. Please tell me why that is OK but going after al Qaeda in Pakistan isnt.

[sailaway21]

You're quite right, sck5. One of those rare occurrences I'll cherish through the remains of a cold winter. But then, I am indeed not the one whom campaigned on the issue of the slaughter of the innocents, am I? Now that it is an Obama administration instead of an Obama candidacy, the ends apparently justify any means. Of course, we'll see how that noted Obama diplomacy works now that he's made good on the campaign pledge to bomb Pakistan, won't we?

If you re-read my post carefully, a skill that requires cultivation, you'll note that I neither condoned nor objected to the president's actions. I merely commented upon their similarity to the former president's actions. I further alluded to the difficulties that Obama diplomacy perhaps faces given the fact that he's announced a willingness to openly violate sovereignty rights aforehand and that those diplomatic efforts might be compounded in their difficulty by the musings of Senator Feinstein.

Welcome to the big time, sck5. So many fires, so little water.

[sck5]

The big time!!!! I finally made it!! Thanks Sway!!

But hey this is sailnet. there's LOTS of water

But I think you overstate the case a bit - Going after Osama was always something us libs wanted Bush to do. The problem was that Bush PICKED THE WRONG COUNTRY!!!!

But OK, dont worry - only a couple of months more till sailing season

[SailKing1]

Sck, you might ask yourself that same question. I can point to many a post you lambasted Bush for attacks.

Are you now condoning His Majesty for the same thing?

[sck5]

sailking

for me it depends if we are attacking the right target. Iraq did nothing to us and wasnt threatening us either. Even Bush admitted it. While reasonable people can certainly differ as to whether it is a good idea to launch attacks within Pakistan, there is no doubt that the target deserves whatever we can throw at it. And as far as I am concerned if a few of the people who are hiding Osama, and helping him avoid justice are taken out in our efforts to get him then that too is justice.

[sailaway21]

Originally Posted by sck5

sailking

While reasonable people can certainly differ as to whether it is a good idea to launch attacks within Pakistan, there is no doubt that the target deserves whatever we can throw at it. And as far as I am concerned if a few of the people who are hiding Osama, and helping him avoid justice are taken out in our efforts to get him then that too is justice.

The conflicts inherent to the first sentence above are manifest. If the target deserves whatever we throw at it, then there's no room for reasonable people to differ, is there?

As to the second sentence, it would lead me to believe that you are now in favor of whatever actions are necessary to continue the eradication of al-Qaeda within Iraq.

I am enjoying your exposition of the new version of the Bush doctrine. Before long, you'll be saying that, if you're not with us, you're against us. Here's to the hope that you'll be able to make it sound fresh, new, and a lot like a change in direction. It's a humorous thought, anyway.

[CrazyRu]

Originally Posted by sck5

sailking

for me it depends if we are attacking the right target. Iraq did nothing to us and wasnt threatening us either. Even Bush admitted it. While reasonable people can certainly differ as to whether it is a good idea to launch attacks within Pakistan, there is no doubt that the target deserves whatever we can throw at it. .

Should I remind you all that Iraq didn't have nuclear weapons and Pakistan does have WMD.

[xort]

Originally Posted by CrazyRu

Should I remind you all that Iraq didn't have nuclear weapons and Pakistan does have WMD.

A good reason to be ultra careful diplomaticly speaking. for feinstein to spout off...deliberately... that we are flying out of pakistan can have very serious consequences. but I doubt she cares

[CrazyRu]

I just wondering how long it would take for some soldiers, whose home villages get bombed on regular basis to stop guarding stock pile of weaponry and start selling it to someone why can put it in better use.