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Civil unrest, could it happen here ?

We have talked a lot about the financial crisis and what should be done, but one thing I find surprising is that nobody in the United States really talks about the possibility of civil unrest and/or riots around the world. I am not sure why that is, maybe because it just hasn't happened here in so long, or maybe it is more of a cultural thing, but I thought I would start a thread and ask what you think about the possibilities of this happening around the world, and even here in the United States.

Europeans do take to the streets, mostly in peaceful protest, though there have been recent notable exceptions. In 2006 French youth got a little out of control and started burning vehicles, etc, which went on for months and was very embarrassing to the French government. In 2008 Greeks went on the rampage sparked by the killing of a child in Athens, but people seem to believe it escalated quickly because of fuel from the current financial crisis. The riots lasted for about three weeks, destroying buildings and property, etc, before quieting down. More recently, in late 2008 and even now, Icelanders have been protesting because of the extreme disarray in their economy and the devaluation of the currency. The notable thing in my opinion about the Icelandic protests is that Icelanders aren't really the protesting type. French people will protest to celebrate their birthday, but Icelanders are a rather serious lot. With unemployment at 8.3%, up 1.6%, Latvians have taken to the streets, and in January 10k+ Latvian's tried to force their way into Parliament. Trend ? Or business as usual ?

Is civil unrest on the uptick, is crime on the rise, could it happen here ? What say you ?

I'm interesting in hearing what you all think about this, also from people living outside the United States, what factors you think drive this kind of behavior, do you think it's on the rise or not, etc. Hopefully the conversation won't break down into yet another U.S. partisan political debate.
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While I'm not sure what it would take to spawn riots, I think the administration needs to be very careful about the policies and laws it passes. Some of the proposed gun registration laws will not be complied with by a large number of honest citizens. Once the honest citizens lose their respect for the laws, things can quickly go down hill. Law enforcement can not do their jobs without the support of their community.
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While I'm not sure what it would take to spawn riots, I think the administration needs to be very careful about the policies and laws it passes. Some of the proposed gun registration laws will not be complied with by a large number of honest citizens. Once the honest citizens lose their respect for the laws, things can quickly go down hill. Law enforcement can not do their jobs without the support of their community.
I think this says a lot. Law enforcement does depend on the community for support!

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i used to believe it could but if the supreme court of California taking away the vote of the people after they voted because the vote didn't go a certain way i gotta say NO. its sad really considering we went to war with England over a .13 cent tax increase
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There may be spots of unrest and riots, but on the whole Americans are better behaved than most other countries. We wait in line, obey traffic rules and laws, etc.

Travel overseas. I have never found a place as peaceful and orderly as the US........well, maybe Barbados...but at best, it's a tie.

We won't riot - at least not in huge numbers. We didn't during the Great Depression, and we ain't even close to a depression.
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There may be spots of unrest and riots, but on the whole Americans are better behaved than most other countries. We wait in line, obey traffic rules and laws, etc.

Travel overseas. I have never found a place as peaceful and orderly as the US........well, maybe Barbados...but at best, it's a tie.

We won't riot - at least not in huge numbers. We didn't during the Great Depression, and we ain't even close to a depression.
We (the U.S.) do have at least some history of protest and riots. Take a look at this list from Wikipedia, I don't think many of these were serious, but there sure are a lot of them. I remember the L.A. riots, I wasn't there, but I remember seeing them on television.

Edit - I think this is my favorite one, the "Lager Beer Riot", don't mess with Germans and their beer!
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There was unrest and riots in many cites in America in the late 1960's.
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There was unrest and riots in many cites in America in the late 1960's.
I remember Katrina. Is does not take much and it was not all that long ago that you saw anarchy.
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That is a pretty long list on Wikipedia. Some listed are merely demonstrations or marches.
This is an interesting thread topic. In a related 'news' story a Russian gov't official predicts the downfall and break up of the US:
Russian scholar says US will collapse — next year
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