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Unions Suck

I hate unions and one of my functions is to rid companies of unions and their like.

Oh yeah, I'm serious, unions are a cancer. Unionized companies can't compete, can't produce, and it's localized communism. In a free market, global economy a unionize company with a collective barginning agreement is headed for bankruptcy.

Unions can exist in government simply because nobody cares, there's no competition, and there's no competition.

I think the UAW and CAW should be run out of town, and that GM, Ford, and Chrysler should just die now, bailouts only prolong the inevitable. Let Honda, Toyota and Nissan produce cars and trucks we want.

Unions are basically dead as of now.
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Thats the best argument I ever heard for card check
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yep, love that card check. Deny basic privacy rights so that union thugs can threaten and intimidate workers. nice.

Why don't the members of congress who support card check push to have all of their votes done without secret ballot? Including elections?

Unions suck because the membership has allowed them to suck.

The concept of unions is good, the practice of unionism today is bad.
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yep, love that card check. Deny basic privacy rights so that union thugs can threaten and intimidate workers. nice.

Why don't the members of congress who support card check push to have all of their votes done without secret ballot? Including elections?

Unions suck because the membership has allowed them to suck.

The concept of unions is good, the practice of unionism today is bad.
Card check gives the workers the right to choose public or private ballot
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Where'd you get that idea?
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I hate unions and one of my functions is to rid companies of unions and their like.

Oh yeah, I'm serious, unions are a cancer. Unionized companies can't compete, can't produce, and it's localized communism. In a free market, global economy a unionize company with a collective barginning agreement is headed for bankruptcy.

Unions can exist in government simply because nobody cares, there's no competition, and there's no competition.
Unionized workers can compete with non-union workers, it just depends on how much the union workers are paid for the work they do. The one thing that is really good about unions from the perspective of a non-union worker is, unions wages set a bench mark against what non-union workers can charge. If there were no unions to compare wages against, non-union workers would really be making crappy wages.

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I think the UAW and CAW should be run out of town, and that GM, Ford, and Chrysler should just die now, bailouts only prolong the inevitable. Let Honda, Toyota and Nissan produce cars and trucks we want.
I guess you don't follow the news to much. Did you know that Toyota is working out a deal with the Japanese government for a big loan to float the company through these bad times? Have you not heard that all foreign car makers sales are way down? Could these bad sales figures be caused by the same mismanagement problems that have been blamed on the American Car makers?

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Unions are basically dead as of now.
They might be dying in the private sector, but they're alive and well in the public sector. Somehow the civil servants have become the masters...lol
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