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[craigimass]

So, what you are saying is that the fact the Bush comes from a oil billionaire family, cheney is the CEO of Haliburton, Phil Grahams wife sat on the BOD of Enron and the CME....we could go on for pages.....

those are just coincidences. Also coincidence that these companies financed Bush's campaigns.

I think one might question whether all these things are nefarious, but there is no question that they guided policy under Bush. Maybe they just thought what was good for multi-national oil companies and large Wall Street firms was good for everyone else?

[PBzeer]

Well, let's see. The Bush's don't make Forbes billionaire list, Cheney was not CEO of Halliburton while VP, and Gramm retired from the Senate in 2002, but, besides those slight inaccuracies, you still fail to make your case. You can not cite just one variable for Exxon's profits as ipso facto proof. Not when there is no quantifiable way to show what their profits would have been minus that one variable. All you're presenting is a theory in search of facts. Stinging together a bunch of coincidental material that conforms to what you want to be true. Kinda reminds me of Iran-Contra when they said they had to investigate Bush Sr because there was no evidence he did anything wrong. It's not a quest for truth, it's a quest for "GOTCHA".

[sailaway21]

I'm hesitant to draw any conclusions upon the fact that the only one to find our Brookline correspondent's posts to be intelligible is a retired teacher but, there it is.

And I step out for a moment to earn a little coin of the realm and miss the whole seminar on "the realities of sex".

You simply cannot make this stuff up. And I know you guys are serious, very serious. That's what makes you so funny. You guys are more funny than the thought of Ralph Nader on ice skates. I'm outta here, it's been real.

[craigimass]

Originally Posted by sailaway21

I'm hesitant to draw any conclusions upon the fact that the only one to find our Brookline correspondent's posts to be intelligible is a retired teacher but, there it is.

Now, you are gonna have to explain first the hockey teens breasts....and now the slight of being a "retired" teacher......

I guess I should be slighted to be a "retired" business man.

But first, I need the brookline breast and teen hockey player explanation....please....I haven't asked you a single favor.

Just explain it to me in case it is a cheesehead humor thing which we philly boys don't get.

Comedian in Greenbay: "Hey, boys, did you hear about the brookline guy who had teen hockey breasts against his neck?"

Audience: "hawdy hah hah, hah hah hah".....

Comedian: "Well, once you stop laughing about that one, let me tell you something about retired teachers.....why, they forget everything they learned"

Audience: "Ha Ha Ha Ha"

Comedian in Greenbay: "Well folks, to cap off the night, I hope you all get some good teabagging in during the next couple days"

Audience" "Huh?"

[PBzeer]

Let's take a moment to review here:

1. Bush met with oil company execs.

2. Bush and Cheney have oil industry ties.

3. Oil companies made record profits.

4. Ipso facto, the War in Iraq was collusion between Bush and the oil companies.

So, we have guilt by association, guilt by circumstance and guilt by cause and effect. What we don't have, is any proof that point 1 led to point 4, other than surmise, based on a desire for it to be true. Seems the only thing you have proved, is the virulence of BDS.

[craigimass]

Well, I wasn't aware that you were talking this to court.

Perhaps those pirates were just joshing and never intended to hurt anyone (which is actually the case, given hundreds of other hostage taking).

I'm sure you would consider them not guilty until proven so.

I am glad you do see the circumstances.

You did forget a few, though.......

1. People inherently do what is in their own self interest.
2. Very few leopards can change their spots.
3. If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...it just might be a duck.
4. Oil and energy is of singular importance in the modern world.

The bottom line is that sloth, selfishness, and cover-ups are not a crime......unless you catch the 3rd one...and when you are the Boss, you can do a lot to make sure you don't get caught.

But if I elected the top dogs at Lockheed Martin, I'd expect more wars than usual. Maybe it's me, but when humans have a stake in something they seem to lean towards it.....aw, maybe that is a conspiracy, eh?

Also, your idea of "met with oil company execs"...left out that it was in secret and that Cheney has been fighting for years to make sure we don't know who attended and what was said. Do you think there is a reason for that?

[PBzeer]

Well, let's see craig ......

1. Suspicion of shady dealings in Arkansas by the Clintons

2. Ongoing investigations covering a variety of areas.

3. Mysterious disappearance of relevant documents.

4. Timely, for the Clinton's, numerous deaths of actual and probable witnesses.

5. Ipso facto, the Clintons are guilty of murder.

While it's not something I ascribe to, it's as valid as your "proof".

But, heaven forbid we actually have a judicial trial to find the truth, much better to simply tar and feather them with unprovable assumptions. So no, I ain't buying it craig. All I see is an overwhelming desire for gottcha.

[craigimass]

You don't have to believe it.
I would not think you would.
No gotcha here. Just my opinion based on the ducks quacking loudly.