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[jackdale]

I am an outsider, being neither an American nor a conservative. I did live in Texas for a year. I also live in the most conservative province in Canada.

What are your views on these conservatives:

Michelle Bachmann
Rush Limbaugh

I am quite prepared to just observe. That may help me understand what is happening "south of the 49th parallel." (Yes I know Alaska is north of that line.)

Jack

[saildork]

I'm not familiar with Bachmann but who hasn't heard of Limbaugh?

I am a conservative. Generally I like Limbaugh but sometimes his bombast is a little overwhelming even for me. What I like about him is that he will often express opinions that many in the public eye share but are afraid to express (eg. The desire to see the Obama policies fail). He will stick to his principles (eg. was not a fan of John McCain, not a fan of the Bush-Kennedy "comprehensive amnesty" plan for illegal aliens, nor of the first bailout by Bush), and he will slam the media when they claim to be objective and prove to be otherwise (eg. Chris Matthews feels a tingle run up his thigh over Barrack Obama, the press falls all over themselves praising Michele Obama's wardrobe, but came apart at the seams over Sarah Palin's).

[PBzeer]

Opinion of what? As a person? As a conservative? Their public pronouncements?

As an aside, I'm curious as to your choice of persons. As one is a politician and one is not.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by PBzeer

Opinion of what? As a person? As a conservative? Their public pronouncements?

As an aside, I'm curious as to your choice of persons. As one is a politician and one is not.

As a conservative and their public pronouncements.

They both seem to get a lot of undue coverage.

[scottyt]

i am off and on when it comes to rush, he says somethings i agree with, some i dont. i do think he is a little pompous, but that is his job, and he says things how they need to be said sometimes.

i personally think there are libs that are afraid of him, and some that like being attacked by him. its great for their lib image.

but face it he is the george soros of the republican party, lots of money and has lots of influence. the real difference is soros buys elections, rush does not and soros stays behind the curtain and rush is in front of it.

[PBzeer]

Haven't followed Bachmann enough to make a detailed pronouncement on her, but she did easily win re-election in 08 in a blue state, so evidently she has an appeal to the voters in her district. She seems unafraid to speak her mind, though some times it appears she doesn't think it through all the way. That though is only an impression, not a certainty.

Limbaugh is Limbaugh. What he isn't though, is a politician. In some ways, he is the ultimate entrepreneur. He saw an underserved market and created a product to address it. In the process, he made a fortune. As some have said, he can be pompous at times, but then, he's earned it. Also like others (though I only read about him, don't listen) I don't always agree with him. But then, I'm the only person I always agree with.

[craigimass]

Neither are thinking people. They are both on autopilot.....

Rush for money and perceived power.
Michele for power only....although I'm sure money will come sooner or later.

Michelle is much more dangerous in some ways because she actually holds elected office. It is hard to imagine someone so clueless....well, actually not hard to imagine, but who are the folks that voted here in?

On a personal level, Rush is a big failure. I think he had three wives and he has virtually no family or friends. Why would he? I don't think sucking down 300 doses of opiates in a day would make for good camaraderie.

He does have a talent...like Hitler, etc. for speaking and making stupid sheeple think he really knows what he is talking about....and also fooling them into thinking THEY know what they are talking about.

And this is just my opinion.

[camaraderie]

I am a conservative and I rarely can stand to listen to a whole Rush Limbuagh show as I think he is a blowhard and just repeats and repeats himself to hear himself talk rather than taking calls from his audience. That said...he is a TRUE conservative and I am with him probably 90% of the time in terms of his opinions on matters. I especially like the fact that he will slam Republicans as hard as democrats when they violate conservative principles. He has a huge influence on the electorate and is smart and eloquent and firmly grounded in philosophy but is not someone I would enjoy being around...it is all about Rush.

Michelle Bachman obviously supports many of the things I do since she is also a conservative...but she is also a dim bulb who supports many things I do not (creationism for one) and is a perfect example of the kind of conservatives that serve as convenient straw men for the like of Craig to knock down.

If your goal is REALLY to understand conservative political philosophy...
Rush is a good choice if you can filter out the bombast and the stuff he says for entertainment. For a more traditional and libertarian influenced conservatism I suggest to tune in to Neal Boortz or read his stuff.
You can listen to him on the internet 8:30-1pm Eastern time here:
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his website is : Boortz on boortz.com

Among other things...he is one of the Champions of the Fair Tax.
THIS debate should be required viewing!
http://www.c-spanarchives.org/librar...art=&clipStop=

[craigimass]

A dim bulb....that's funny!

I usually try to distance myself from dim bulbs even if they parrot some things I might agree with......

Michelle, for instance, wants the entire US Congress investigated for anti-American activities and compares Americorp and national service (peace corps, etc.) to Hitler Youth training facilities.

I'm sure, though, that she has no problem with the Marine Corp training 18 year olds to do thing which some may consider unpalatable.

My daughter worked a year for Americorp. Afterward she ended up with both an engineering degree and a law degree. Now she attempts to clean up water and air (environmental law) at 1/3 the salary she was offered for going "corporate". I know Michelle would call that a perfect example of the harm done by these liberal training camps.

A dim bulb and a wing nut. Between her and Palin I don't know which is more clueless. Of course, they don't have a lock on stupidity, but it does give the fairer sex a bad name because they get more press than most others.

[sailaway21]

Ms Bachman apprears to support the teaching of intelligent design, not creationism. With a juris doctor and an advanced law degree, I doubt she is a dim bulb.

I have a limited tolerance for Rush's show but it's driving media, the audience checks in and out, and the show is not designed around three hours of continuous listening. And I'll disagree further with Camaraderie's assessment by saying that while Rush could perhaps take more callers, the focus of the show is Rush and his interaction with callers. And at that, he does an excellent job. He in polite and allows callers their say. he is probably most popular for being able to verbalize what the vast majority of Americans are thinking themselves.