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Mike et al.

I really do hope that you do not buy into these scare tactics.

I have read Rand - she hero worships egotistical, self-righteous bastards.

I have read and respect William F. Buckley Jr.

I have respect for some of the conservatives of old.

But if this are really what conservatives of today believe, they had better adjust their tin foil hats.

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hero worships egotistical, self-righteous bastards.
That seems to be a tendency of a large proportion of mankind. Either they worship them, or shake in their boots at them (and so obey them).

Well, it didn't work out too well for Greenspan, who actually hobnobbed with the great one.

While her theories have come to be known as Objectivism, I would more classify them as "Corporate Power". Unfortunately, the word "Corporatism" has already been hijacked and given the wrong meaning.....

But what I mean by corporate power or the slang use of corporatism is:
"Contemporary popular (as opposed to social science) usage of the term is more pejorative, emphasizing the role of business corporations in government decision-making at the expense of the public. The power of business to affect government legislation through lobbying and other avenues of influence in order to promote their interests is usually seen as detrimental to those of the public"

Of course, Ayn or Ann or whatever her name is would argue that the interest of the powerful and business is ALWAYS beneficial to the interest of the public.....or do I have that wrong?

Well, to be honest I could not make it through her books......not exactly gripping prose.
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Angry Who's to blame!

Everyone seems to blame the Bush administration for the last eight years. He certainly was in charge and a do nothing president like his father. But to put the blame where it belongs we have to go back further than the Bush's. It all started with President Carter. He told the banks to make loans to those who couldn't afford them. Then President Clinton made it law, they had to make those loans. That was the start of the problem and the mess we are in now! I believe we have terrorists working within our system. They are the Congress, Senate and obama (not our returning veterans). They are trying their best to ruin our economy (vote them all out). Bless Pam Geller, she has the courage to tell it like it is!

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the real funny part for me in the war section is when the word progressive gets thrown around ( some use it in its real form )

there is a progressive web site, these people are getting all teared eyed because they now see the shift to where they can do away with repubs. they see the future with 2 democratic parties, one where the dems are now in this country, one even farther left. they talk about teaching kids at early stages to fit the agenda, they talk about jailing those who are "right wing", they want to ban guns, they want free health care, wealth distribution etc.

then you get a post like this where "they" say the intellectuals are the correct ones, and the bullies are the wrong ones but history shows the opposite. we will take george bush, he ran against kerry, kerry was supposed to be the bright one but bush had higher grades. then we take history of a speaker being booed and not even allowed to finish a speech by the "students".

if you all really want to see what a progressive is go read democratic under ground
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