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Evidently no one notices the irony in telling a bunch of paranoid wackos they really have a reason to be paranoid.
Especially when the news is delivered via leaflets dropped from black helicopters!!
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I particularly like the part where us right wing wack-jobs are defined by our placing state and local government over the federal government in supremacy. Where ever could we have gotten such a notion.
And left wingers have this crazy idea that maybe peace would be a good thing - and not dropping atomic weapons. What a nutty idea - right out of left field, of course!

After all the killings of the last few months as well as the assassination attempts during the election (all by nut jobs listening to the right), I applaud the government for warning law enforcement. Not that they need warned. They are only too aware after a nut job killed 3 of them last week.

Once again, folks might want to look in the mirror and see what side they are on. It is my assumption that those proud wingnuts who take offense are pretty chicken anyway...they would rather rile OTHERS up with hate speech and other actions and then cheer when someone "breaks" and shoots up the local cops or immigrations center.

Enjoy, folks. Nice world you are creating for your kids. Oh, maybe you can bring them along to the revolution.......

"You say you want a revolution....well, ya know, we all do what we can"
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So, go ahead. Let us all know your plottings........
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I guess reading comprehension is not the strong suit of the right wing:

"to facilitate a greater understanding of the
phenomenon of violent radicalization in the United States. The information is provided to federal, state, local, and tribal counterterrorism and law enforcement officials so they may effectively deter, prevent, preempt, or respond to terrorist attacks
against the United States. Federal efforts to influence domestic public opinion must be conducted in an overt and transparent manner, clearly identifying United States Government sponsorship. "

Uh, let me translate......

"It is good for you to know the possibilities of what is going on - as this information may help you save lives.
Any actions you take regarding this should be OPEN and FREE and TRANSPARENT to the public".

Yep, that is dangerous to whack jobs....Bush certainly would not have asked that these things be OPEN and FREE.

Change I can believe in, for sure...

Now please learn to read AND comprehend.
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Funny, it wasn't that long ago that such missives were deemed to be politically motivated scare tactics. Now, there are necessary warnings. Lord knows, we have to keep those right wing whackos in check or they might start trampling on our rights like these models of tolerance did:
UNC students protested a speaker who opposes illegal immigrants in schools. - 4/15/09 - Raleigh News - abc11.com

No doubt craig you'll have a telling defense of why they should be allowed not just to protest (which they do), but to stop the speaker from speaking.
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Like I said, PB.......glad you understand how it feels........

Let me know when your name is on a government watch list. I know a number of people who HAVE been on them, and was myself a member of a peaceful group which was tracked, infiltrated and ultimately destroyed (through collusion with a bank) by Mr. Hoovers FBI.
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Let me know when your name is on a government watch list. I know a number of people who HAVE been on them, and was myself a member of a peaceful group which was tracked, infiltrated and ultimately destroyed (through collusion with a bank) by Mr. Hoovers FBI.
You confuse me sometimes Craigimass. Did you resent that the government did that to your group? If so, it seems that you would be very vocal that they continue to do it.
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Once again craig, you make assumptions without validity. I don't think any group should have the right to stop anyone from exercising their right of free speech. Never have, never will. My positions are not situational, they are consistent. There is no "shoe on the other foot" issue. Particularly as I've never belonged to any organized group as a means to exercise my right of speech. It's not necessary.

Had you displayed some of that comprehension you find so lacking in those who disagree with you, you might have noticed I made no statement about the right or wrong of the report, nor of the issuance of it, other than to question if it was a wise move to make a bunch of paranoids more parnoid. Not, I think, an unreasonable question.
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You confuse me sometimes Craigimass. Did you resent that the government did that to your group? If so, it seems that you would be very vocal that they continue to do it.
Well, we didn't have guns......not a one. Not even knives. There is a difference. We were not crazy and we did not advocate any type of rebellion against the government. We did not even protest!

We simply lived in a simple way, and that was dangerous to them.

I'm pleased to inform you that today - you can probably move to the country and live on next to nothing and not get investigated for it. BUT, if you arm heavily, put on camouflage, regularly visit sites which advocate armed insurrection and spread false and misleading information which may lead to some innocents being hurt......well, then you are/were a threat to me and to peace loving people.

OTOH, how many of you honestly defended William Ayers for his "efforts for freedom". I certainly did not, although I could understand his frustration. I can also understand the frustration of right wingnuts, but that does not mean I support it. There is a difference.

Tell you what - protest the military industrial complex and maybe you'll get me along for the ride - but I sure ain't gonna arm up for it.......

As the Beatles said:
"but if you go carrying pictures of El Rushbo
you ain't gonna make it with anyone, anyhow......."

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I guess you guys now can identify with the Black Panthers also. At least they had a leg to stand on!
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Once again craig, you make assumptions without validity. I don't think any group should have the right to stop anyone from exercising their right of free speech. Never have, never will.
Hint Hint.....
Arming up and advocating armed insurrection is NOT free speech.

Please describe to me exactly who is being stopped from their rights and how.
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