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[craigimass]

I would actually welcome Texas if it wanted to leave the union, and if it came to a popular vote (as to whether to allow it), I would approve.

I might think differently about states which did not border other countries or a large part of the ocean.

What gets to me about Texas and friends is that they delivered GW and his ilk to us, and I heard a congress person from there claiming (yesterday) that Texans were the MOST patriotic Americans.....well, it gets very confusing.

I think what they have against the rest of the country...is simply intolerance. They are taking about the same $$ from the government as they put in, so they can't have complaints about that.

Actually, Texas is sort of an anomaly. I can understand some parts of the south where they are still fighting the civil war (true!), but Texas was really never part of that scene.

No, really, I can't imagine why Texas has beefs after 8 years of their favorite son as President. Maybe you can inform me. Did something happen in two months which undid all the good that GW did for Texas?

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by AdamLein

Personally I think recommending that certain groups be watched more than other groups is justifiable if statistics show that those groups are more likely to commit crimes than other groups. I also think that, if only for efficiency's sake, the "group" in question should be narrowed down as much as possible. If you can say that a certain conservative Christian church has produced more abortion clinic bombers than any other with statistical significance, that's better than saying "sometimes conservative Christians bomb abortion clinics."

I guess they did not watch very closely.

Scott Roeder, 51, of Merriam, Kan., whom authorities have described as a suspect in Sunday’s fatal shooting here of George Tiller, the doctor who had been a focal point for abortion opponents for decades, was once a subscriber and occasional contributor to a newsletter, Prayer and Action News, said to Dave Leach, an anti-abortion activist from Des Moines who runs the newsletter. Mr. Leach said he and Mr. Roeder had met once, and Mr. Roeder had described similar views to his own. Of Dr. Tiller’s death, Mr. Leach said, “To call this a crime is too simplistic,” adding, “There is Christian scripture that would support this."

I was a Sunday school teacher for a while. I am not familiar with anything in the New Testament to support gunning someone down in church.

Jack

[ssneade]

gotta agree with you, jack. although no theologian, i've read the bible a few times, and nowhere do i remember anything of the such in the new testament.
but, because of what LIBERALS think in their little minds, such as an almost total dependency on government, we conservatives should be classified as a threat to their ideology, therefore should be watched closely and monitored like probationers.
as long as there is breath in my body, i will cling to conservancy, to economic freedom and liberty, the pursuit of happiness and the belief that the less government involvement in our lives and in our society as a whole, the better off we are.
guess i'm a terrorist..............

[sck5]

such paranoia conservadudes! Nobody is after you. You just lost an election is all that happened. Calm yourselves. I know how you feel and it will be OK - In a few years you will still be Americans and we will have another election. You can test out whether people like your side better at that point or, maybe, you could change some of your positions to ones that are more popular.

[craigimass]

Originally Posted by ssneade

should be classified as a threat to their ideology, therefore should be watched closely and monitored like probationers.
guess i'm a terrorist..............

I guess you must have voted against GW in 2004 due to the Patriot Act, which let the government look at just about EVERYTHING you do, including the books we take out of the library.

All of us "small minded libs", who do tend to frequent libraries, were quite outraged.

Neanderthals also tried to cling to their old ways. They lost, and the humanoids who favored learning and progression/advancement won.

Life, unfortunately, is not a talking point.

[erps]

I guess you must have voted against GW in 2004 due to the Patriot Act, which let the government look at just about EVERYTHING you do, including the books we take out of the library.

All of us "small minded libs", who do tend to frequent libraries, were quite outraged.

You mean that piece of legislation that Obama voted for?

Clinton Slams Obama for Voting “for” the PATRIOT Act at ABC-Facebook New Hampshire Debate | Threat Level | Wired.com

[craigimass]

Ray, that's the problem with one liner answers.
"the "Patriot Act", is a statute enacted by the United States Government that President George W. Bush signed into law on October 26, 2001."

Yeah, Obama was not even IN the Senate until 2004. So it would have been very tough for him to vote for the original Patriot Act, the one which took away vast amounts of civil liberties.

You must be speaking of the re authorization of the act, which the Senate (and Obama) tried to institute substantial changes to....but, this was still when the GOP owned both houses and the white house, so many of the changes (which all protected civil liberties) were stripped out.

However, many of the provisions of the Act are set to Sunset at the end of this year (end), and others have been modified to protect civil liberties - because these provisions were struck down by high courts in this country.

In any case, you have to make your point. Did you or did you not cheer lead and approve of giving government the right to follow your library checkout list as well as snoop on you without prior warrant?

The Act was introduced, passed and reauthorized under 100% GOP control. Since modern McCarthyism was in full force much of that time, I'm sure lots of Dems voted for it too. I make no excuses for them...they have to make their own.

[erps]

In any case, you have to make your point. Did you or did you not cheer lead and approve of giving government the right to follow your library checkout list as well as snoop on you without prior warrant?

I had little interest or time for politics until I got onto sailnet. The Patriot Act was not something I considered in the last two elections.

My point was that you somehow manage to contain your outrage, when it's a democrat continuing on with or going along with one of the dark overlord's policies. I think that's hypocritical.

[ssneade]

what's the difference if you have nothing to hide? i don't care who is looking at what i'm doing. another difference between liberals and conservatives. we have NOTHING to hide! we don't talk through both sides of our mouths. we are a more caring and charitable lot than liberals, less likely to have tax issues, are more honest, and above all DO NOT need a government handout to get what we need. but that's something libs wouldn't understand and probably never will. they're full of fear and hatred for self sufficiency. they want to take from the haves and give it to the have naughts. don't hold a gun to my head and rob me to fund your welfare programs. the conservative private sector would have done a much better job of taking care of the poor and sick in our country anyway. how? why? because we look after our own.
no, we're not the ones who're paranoid. we're the good guys, the ones who will have to set this country back on its course. the ones who will save our children and grandchildren from trillions in debt. do not stereotype us with gw. the man had a lot on him during his term, made some mistakes, and lost sight of some of the things we conservatives stand for. but god only knows what would have happened if algore had been elected. we most likely would already be a socialist state, much like our current leaders want.
sorry, it's not gonna happen............

[craigimass]

Are your teeth whiter too?

I can't even answer that one about throwing away the US Constitution etc because you have nothing to hide.

I say you are more paranoid, have more guns, worse teeth and drink more. I also think your women are uglier.

That is a joke, of course, as your post also is.