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"But the damage Obama has done to the economy will be with us for a long time. I am afraid that 9.4% unemployment may be the standard for a few years."
One sentence follows another with the same thought in the same paragraph without distinction.
So, is this what you meant to say:
"But the damage Obama has done to the economy will be with us for a long time. I am afraid that the 9.4% unemployment, WHICH IS A RESULT OF THE GOP MAJORITY, may be the standard for a few years."
Pardon me if I misunderstood, but one sentence following another like that does not give distinction to the causation.
Sorta like:
"The weather is bad outside because it is raining. I got wet"
Am I to assume you got wet in the shower?
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.........So, is this what you meant to say:
"But the damage Obama has done to the economy will be with us for a long time. I am afraid that the 9.4% unemployment, WHICH IS A RESULT OF THE GOP MAJORITY, may be the standard for a few years."
Pardon me if I misunderstood,.......
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No. What I meant to say was But the damage Obama has done to the economy will be with us for a long time. I am afraid that 9.4% unemployment may be the standard for a few years., which was exactly what I said.
You did not misunderstand. Even you are not that stupid.
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I'm afraid that 9.4% does not even begin to approximate what the real unemployment rate will become under OBAMA's misguided and ANTI-Recovery policies.
BTW the Dems controlled congress AND thus the purse strings since 2006...and caused this depression every bit as much as the Rep congress did. Oh yeah...the last Dem congress caused the LAST recession as well which was underway several months before Clinton left office.
Bush pulled us out of the recession with his tax cuts..but became a Democrat along with the rest of congress when it came to spending. THAT is his shame...that he became a DEMOCRATIC style big government spender.
...but he is a piker when compared to the grandiose socialist dreams of our father Barack.
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Correction of historical facts....
The last two recessions - or downturns or crashes, were caused by the bursting of the Internet Bubble and then 9/11. Those were neither the fault of Clinton or Bush. In fact, even with the bursting of the Internet Bubble, the wealth created by that boom fueled a complete paydown of the deficit and a SURPLUS under Clinton AND the GOP Congress.
Facts are stubborn things. We get nowhere pointing fingers.
The current crash can be attributed to many things - but foremost among them is our own greed and the failure of government (largely under the GOP control during that time) to rein in the excesses of Wall Street. In fact, the actual opposite occurred and government said Wall Street could do a better job of regulating itself than government and regulators could. As we have found out, that is not the case. If you leave your teens at home alone for a couple weeks, they are likely to have a party! Supervision is essential.
Leave the foxes to guard the chickens, and you will get what I have in my backyard now (no kidding). A lot of chicken and turkey parts and feathers (seems they found the free range farm two blocks away).
Bush didn't pull us out of any recession. He gave away free money (low interest rates and tax cuts when the debt was increasing).....which helped make this crash worse. Saying he helped pull us out of this would be like praising your kids when they get a second credit card and run up their debt higher just before they go bust! Bush (really Greenspan) made us think money was free and therefore we should all spend it as quickly as possible. We should not have to work for money, just refinance at a lower rate and borrow it - magic!
As to what Obamas policies create, I'll wait 5-10 years and am 100% open to seeing what happens either way. But I don't have a crystal ball which says they will fail. Once again - to repeat- the biggest problem we have at the moment is the dip in the business cycle. When (and IF) economic activity picks up again, there will be more options. If it does not pick up and we are entering a 10-20 year or more downturn, then government will have to shrink to fit that mold. It won't happen overnight, but it will happen.
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Thanks so much for your wishes to me on having an enjoyable summer, Sailaway. I plan to. It appears that you also believe I'm a young man, a senior in high school or college with my whole life ahead of me. As usual, you're wrong again. My idea of you is pretty different...I imagine you as something of an angry old geezer, and frankly you're showing some real indications of senility setting in based on what I've seen you write. I also can't imagine you ever experiencing a senior year in your own life since your opinions on just about everything I've seen are remarkably uneducated and ill-informed for someone your age.
Did you ever graduate from anywhere? And tell me, do you get really p***ed off when you see neighborhood kids walking on your lawn?
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You forgot to ascribe your quote to Wiki, by the way.* You'd probably never heard of the Almanac of American Politics either until your punched up wiki either;
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To tell you the truth, I did do a pretty minimal search on Barone to find out who he is and I don't remember if the results I got were pulled up on wikipedia or not. But it's clear to me now that the last thing you'd ever use would be a neutral search engine to actually pull up facts on anything you write about. Instead, you'll always be looking for a "dickopedia" browser, or some source like the Almanac of American Poliitics that would echo your already lame brained ideas.
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The dickapedia is actually pretty cool. Funny too.
Main Page - Dickipedia - A Wiki of Dicks
The writing there is classic. Maybe we could add an entry for Sway.
"Michael Stephen Steele (born October 19, 1958) is an African-American politician, chairman of the Republican National Committee, bizzarro Barack Obama, former lieutenant Governor of Maryland, Fox News contributor, a giant ham, and a dick.
Steele is seemingly the next model in a recent line of inept Republican officials who have risen to power simply because they are the seen as an antidote to a major democratic candidate rather than being something unhelpful like, say, a strong advocate for their constituents positions.
Through his frequent use of "slang" and attempts to appeal to urban youth, it is unclear if Steele is actually an African-American holding a high office in the Republican Party or just trying to be what most Republicans officials imagined an African-American holding a high office in the Republican Party would look like.
In either case, Steele is ironically a poor man's Barack Obama who was created for the rich man's political party, making him like the Sharper Image of American politics. "
C'mon, that's funny!
I like it when they say:
"bizzarro Barack Obama, former lieutenant Governor of Maryland, Fox News contributor, a giant ham, and a dick"
The writing style actually makes you follow along and believe it - more so because in most of these cases, it is true.
I have a friend who is best friends with Billy Crystal. Billy has an entry in dickapedia.......pretty funny and somewhat right one. The entry says:
"William Jacob “Billy” Crystal (born March 14, 1948) is a comedian, actor, writer, director, and a dick. Of all those titles, the only one he excels at is, of course, dick. "
Funny stuff....
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Thanks so much for your wishes to me on having an enjoyable summer, Sailaway. I plan to. It appears that you also believe I'm a young man, a senior in high school or college with my whole life ahead of me. As usual, you're wrong again. My idea of you is pretty different...I imagine you as something of an angry old geezer, and frankly you're showing some real indications of senility setting in based on what I've seen you write. I also can't imagine you ever experiencing a senior year in your own life since your opinions on just about everything I've seen are remarkably uneducated and ill-informed for someone your age.
Did you ever graduate from anywhere? And tell me, do you get really p***ed off when you see neighborhood kids walking on your lawn?To tell you the truth, I did do a pretty minimal search on Barone to find out who he is and I don't remember if the results I got were pulled up on wikipedia or not. But it's clear to me now that the last thing you'd ever use would be a neutral search engine to actually pull up facts on anything you write about. Instead, you'll always be looking for a "dickopedia" browser, or some source like the Almanac of American Poliitics that would echo your already lame brained ideas.
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"Ill-informed", eh? I'm not the one whom plagiarized Wikipedia and doesn't know anything about the foremost demographer of American politics. But have it any way you'd like.
Boy, I must be old because I don't know what a neutral search engine is. I did have a heck of a time finding my de Tocqueville the other night but that was an unpowered search of my book shelves. You know books, those things old people read? At your school they keep them in a room called the library. If you go in there, they've got an encyclopedia or two. Those are the volumes where they get experts to write historical articles about things. They're probably a better source of information than what you're currently using, or not using, as the case may be. Find the "OP" volume and look for Palestine. Right down the proper spelling before you go because there are going to be a lot of unfamiliar words in there that might confuse you before you even get to "Palestine".
I graduated from reform school, twice, and I keep my lawn covered in dog manure just to keep the little cretins off it. Almost shot one of the little bastards, sighting in my rifle on the Stop sign down the street the other day. If I'd adjusted for windage, I'd have likely plugged the little bastard. I'm sorry that I was so unclear; I never intended to associate you or your posts with college or other forms of higher education. I should write more exactly in the future.
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Originally Posted by cardiacpaul
"Facts are stubborn things. We get nowhere pointing fingers."
Odd thing... pointing fingers at Bush for all of the worlds ills is apparently the right (or is that left) thing to do.
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More oddly, Paul, is that facts must of necessity be more stubborn than willful ignorance. (g)
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Much like Obama prefaces his every takeover of a new part of the economy with, "I'm reluctant" or "I don't want to", craig prefaces his personal attacks on various and sundry republicans with a "don't point fingers" or variation thereof. This, of course, while applauding the return of "grown-ups" to the realm of governance.
His reliance on "Tinkerbell data" (wishing makes it true) to butress his position is indicative of his lack of familiarity with the most basic grasp of history, as well as current events. Or, a wilfull ignorance of it. Take your pick.
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