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Old 07-31-2009
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Proposed New Health Care Info

Please take the time to review the following comments re: the 1,017 page
health care bill pending in congress. We all need to be aware and
proactive with our respective elected representatives regarding this
"reform" that is being pushed without adequate reading and review as the
previous "stimulus" and "tarp" funding was also presented

Http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-...=f:h3200ih.pdf


It's 1,017 pages long, and apparently nobody has read all of it, but
here are some tidbits. For anyone over 50, it's gets scarier the farther
down you go:

Pg 22 of the HC Bill mandates the Government will audit books of all
employers that self insure. Small businesses will abandon self insurance
and go on Government insurance. So although proponents say that there
will still be private health care, it's simply a lie: this mandate will
force employers to abandon their private plans.

Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC bill ? a Government committee will decide what
treatments/benefits a person may receive.

Pg 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill - Your healthcare will be rationed (as
it is in Canada and Britain ).

Pg 42 of HC Bill ? The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC
Benefits for you. You will have no choice.

PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill - HC will be provided to ALL non US
citizens, illegal or otherwise. Citizens and legal residents will pay.

Pg 58 HC Bill ? Government will have real-time access to individual's
finances and a National ID Healthcard will be issued.

Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Government will have direct access to your
bank accts for funds transfer.

PG 65 Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their
families in Unions & community organizations (read: ACORN).

Pg 72 Lines 8-14 Government will create an Health Care Exchange to bring
private Health Care plans under Government control.

PG 84 Sec 203 HC bill - Government mandates ALL benefit packages for
private Health Care plans in the Exchange.

PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specifics of Benefit Levels for Plans = The
Government will ration your Healthcare.

PG 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill - Government mandates linguistic appropriate
services. Example - Translate into English for illegal aliens.

Pg 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The Government will use groups, i.e. ACORN &
Americorps, to sign up individuals for Government Health Care plan.

PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specifics of Benefit Levels for Plans. AARP
members - your Health care WILL be rationed. Fewer services as you age
and are deemed less valuable.

Pg 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill - Medicaid Eligible Individuals will be
automatically enrolled in Medicaid. No choice.

Pg 124 lines 24-25 HC - No company can sue Government on price fixing.
No "judicial review" against Government Monopoly.

pg 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill - Doctors/ AMA - The Government will tell
doctors what they can earn.

Pg 145 Line 15-17 An Employer MUST auto enroll employees into public
option plan. No choice.

Pg 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay for Health Care for part time
employees AND their families. (Incentive for employers to cut payroll,
particularly for part-timers.)

Pg 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Employer with payroll $400k & above who does not
provide public option pays 8% tax on all payroll.

pg 150 Lines 9-13 Businesses with payroll between $251k & $400k who
don't provide public option pay 2-6% tax on all payroll.

Pg 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesn't have acceptable Health
Care according to Government will be taxed 2.5% of income.

Pg 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual
taxes. (Americans will pay.)

Pg 195 HC Bill -officers & employees of HC Admin (government employees)
will have access to ALL Americans' finances and personal medical
records.

PG 203 Line 14-15 HC - "The tax imposed under this section shall not be
treated as tax. " Actual wording.

Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill Government will reduce physician services for
Medicaid. Seniors, low income, & poor affected.

Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill ? Doctors ? doesn't matter what specialty ? will
all be paid the same. No incentive to specialize or to develop new
technologies.

PG 253 Line 10-18 Government sets value of Doctor's time, professional
judgment, etc. Literally, value of humans. Government payscale, no
incentive to stay in medicine or go through med school.

PG 265 Sec 1131Government mandates & controls productivity for private
HC industries.

PG 268 Sec 1141 Federal Government regulates rental & purchase of power
driven wheelchairs.

PG 272 SEC. 1145. Treatment of certain cancer hospitals - rationing of
treatment for cancer patients, no extension of life if incurable. Those
considered terminal will be allowed to die.

Page 280 Sec 1151 The Government will penalize hospitals for what
Government deems preventable readmissions.

Pg 298 Lines 9-11 Doctors who treat a patient during initial admission
that results in a readmission - Government will penalize.

Pg 317 L 13-20 Prohibition on ownership/investment. Government tells
Doctors what/how much they can own.

Pg 317-318 lines 21-25,1-3 Prohibition on expansion - Government will
mandate hospitals cannot expand.

pg 321 2-13 Hospitals have opportunity to apply for exception BUT
community input required.

Pg335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339 - Government mandates establishment of
outcome-based measures (some illnesses can only be treated, not cured,
so expected outcome is not optimal), which forces health care rationing
and denial.

Pg 341 Lines 3-9 Government has authority to disqualify private Medicare
Adv Plans, HMOs, etc., forcing people into Government plan.

Pg 354 Sec 1177 - Government will restrict enrollment of Special Needs
people.

Pg 379 Sec 1191 Government creates more bureaucracy - Telehealth
Advisory Committee. Health Care by phone.

PG 425 Lines 4-12 Government mandates Advance Care Planning
Consultations (forced Senior Citizens end of life prodding).

Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Government will instruct & consult regarding living
wills, durable powers of attorney. Mandatory, no choice.

PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Government provides approved list of
end-of-life resources, guiding you in how to die.

PG 427 Lines 15-24 Government mandates program for orders for
end-of-life. The Government has a say in how your life ends.

Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An "advanced care planning consultant" will be used
frequently as patients' health deteriorates.

PG 429 Lines 10-12 "advanced care consultation" may include an ORDER for
end of life plans. AN ORDER from the Government to end a life.

Pg 429 Lines 13-25 - The Government will specify which doctors can write
an end of life order.

PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Government will decide what level of treatment
you will have at end of life.

Pg 469 - Community Based Home Medical Services/Non profit orgs. (ACORN
Medical Services?)

Page 472 Lines 14-17 Payment to community-based organization (Again,
ACORN?)

PG 489 Sec 1308 Marriage & Family therapy, inserting government into
marriages.

Pg 494-498 Government will cover Mental Health Services, including
defining, creating, rationing those services and keeping records in a
government database of treatment received or requestm
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Mike... I saw a rather extensive review of this fact list elsewhere that went point by point and provided the actual language of the bill.
I am totally against the bill...but I must say that my own conclusion was that the claims made in the list are largely overstated, many are entirely bogus and I regard it as a piece of propaganda just as Obama/Waxman's descriptions of the plan are disengenuous propaganda.
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TOP TEN INDICATORS THAT YOUR EMPLOYER HAS CHANGED TO OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE PLAN:

(10) Your annual breast exam is done at Hooters.

(9) Directions to your doctor's office include "Take a left when you enter the trailer park."

(8) The tongue depressors taste faintly of Fudgesicles.

(7) The only proctologist in the plan is "Gus" from Roto-Rooter.

(6) The only item listed under Preventative Care Coverage is "an apple a day."

(5) Your primary care physician is wearing the pants you gave to Goodwill last month.

(4) "The patient is responsible for 200% of out-of-network charges," is not a typographical error.

(3) The only expense covered 100% is…. "Embalming."

(2) Your Prozac comes in different colors with little M's on them.

AND THE NUMBER ONE SIGN YOU'VE JOINED OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE PLAN:

(1) You ask for Viagra, and they give you a Popsicle stick and duct tape!!!!!
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