Unions lose a big one.

[mdbee]

Walker, taxpayers win:

Supreme Court reinstates collective bargaining law - JSOnline

[erps]

Sounds like that lower court judge got spanked a little bit.

[BentSailor]

As he should have, whether or not something is right or wrong - judges can only follow the existing law, not make it up. Personally, I never claimed the actions of Walker were illegal, just morally wrong. As anyone complaining about the laws passed by either party knows, there is a big difference between "legal" and "right".

That said, there are obviously other challenges ahead as the article acknowledges. It's just that this challenge was legally unsupportable

[RAGNAR]

Originally Posted by BentSailor

I never claimed the actions of Walker were illegal, just morally wrong.

You never made the case, though.

There's nothing wrong with a government redoing the terms on which it deals with unions when said government is flirting with debilitating debt that can end those jobs. (Private citizens, rich and poor, taxpayers and benefits/unscrutinized mortgage receivers, do this all day. Where's the problem?)

As anyone complaining about the laws passed by either party knows, there is a big difference between "legal" and "right".

Sure is. Any law that infringes on Rights is both immoral and illegal.

[mdbee]

I would never wish to put words in your mouth but would it be fair to say that you feel we should restore "collective bargaining" to Federal employees?

That darn Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Congress must have been morally bankrupted when they did that to the Federal employees.

Originally Posted by BentSailor

As he should have, whether or not something is right or wrong - judges can only follow the existing law, not make it up. Personally, I never claimed the actions of Walker were illegal, just morally wrong. As anyone complaining about the laws passed by either party knows, there is a big difference between "legal" and "right".

That said, there are obviously other challenges ahead as the article acknowledges. It's just that this challenge was legally unsupportable

[BentSailor]

See, you forget my beliefs on this are not driven by partisan cheerleading. I do in fact believe that the federal employees should have the ability to collectively bargain. Restrictions on the ability to strike &/or their scope are reasonable given their importance to the country, but preventing them from collective bargaining is incorrect in my view & has been ever since I took an interest in industrial relations.

I don't care whether something is enacted by a Democratic President/Congress or a Republican one - if it is wrong, it is wrong no matter who does it. Not everyone looks at the world through party-tinted glasses, mate.

It's always amusing to see the knee-jerk "gotcha questions" from those that think just because the Democrats did something, I have to agree with it

[mdbee]

The foolishness of collective bargaining for government workers has been thoroughly discussed in previous posts. The important thing is that now state after state is following the Federal government's lead. The union thugs are slowly loosing their power.

Originally Posted by BentSailor

See, you forget my beliefs on this are not driven by partisan cheerleading. I do in fact believe that the federal employees should have the ability to collectively bargain. Restrictions on the ability to strike &/or their scope are reasonable given their importance to the country, but preventing them from collective bargaining is incorrect in my view & has been ever since I took an interest in industrial relations.

I don't care whether something is enacted by a Democratic President/Congress or a Republican one - if it is wrong, it is wrong no matter who does it. Not everyone looks at the world through party-tinted glasses, mate.

It's always amusing to see the knee-jerk "gotcha questions" from those that think just because the Democrats did something, I have to agree with it

[BentSailor]

Originally Posted by mdbee

The foolishness of collective bargaining for government workers has been thoroughly discussed in previous posts. The important thing is that now state after state is following the Federal government's lead. The union thugs are slowly loosing their power.

I thought the salient point was that the legal foundation with which the given law was dismissed was faulty. That was, after all, what the OP was about. You don't want to stray too far from the OP or the "subject police" get all narky

Personally, I agree that the subject has been discussed at length previously (predictably without changing anyone's mind on the matter) and that the important point would be that the practice is spreading, not who is spreading it.

Which, of course, leaves your comment regarding President Carter & the Democratic Congress passing the federal laws oddly bereft of significance outside partisan bickering.