Gov Rik Perry, doing something right!

[bwalker42]

Perry: Prayer Rally Won’t Be Political
Posted by Chace Murphy News Monday, August 1st, 2011
AUSTIN, Texas (AP) _ Texas Gov. Rick Perry says this coming Saturday’s prayer rally in Houston is “about lifting up the name of Jesus” and asking God to give America hope and direction.

Perry told FRC Radio’s Washington Watch Weekly that he and a group of friends were talking about how to solve America’s problems and said, “Let’s be biblical. Let’s follow the instructions.”

The event at Reliant Stadium, called “The Response,” is billed as a day of prayer and fasting.

Perry, who is considering a presidential bid, says “The Response” won’t be a political event. Last week, a federal judge threw out a lawsuit challenging its
constitutionality.

In an Associated Press interview, Perry said he supports amending the U.S. Constitution to define marriage as the union of a man and a woman, and said he believes God created life and the universe.

But he added that he expects the presidential race to focus on jobs — not evolution or gay marriage.

(Copyright 2011 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

[SloopJonB]

Originally Posted by bwalker42

Perry: Prayer Rally Won’t Be Political
Posted by Chace Murphy News Monday, August 1st, 2011
AUSTIN, Texas (AP) _ Texas Gov. Rick Perry says this coming Saturday’s prayer rally in Houston is “about lifting up the name of Jesus” and asking God to give America hope and direction.

Perry told FRC Radio’s Washington Watch Weekly that he and a group of friends were talking about how to solve America’s problems and said, “Let’s be biblical. Let’s follow the instructions.”

The event at Reliant Stadium, called “The Response,” is billed as a day of prayer and fasting.

Perry, who is considering a presidential bid, says “The Response” won’t be a political event. Last week, a federal judge threw out a lawsuit challenging its
constitutionality.

In an Associated Press interview, Perry said he supports amending the U.S. Constitution to define marriage as the union of a man and a woman, and said he believes God created life and the universe.

But he added that he expects the presidential race to focus on jobs — not evolution or gay marriage.

(Copyright 2011 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

Sorry BW but I think SailNet now needs to add "Don't Like" and "Disagree" buttons. Mixing religion and politics is unconstitutional, whether or not the offender says it ain't religion.

[chrisncate]

As a non religious person, I have trouble with having any religious beliefs being imposed on me and/or in my name, by a politician.

I'd be happy with ethics. Ethics in politics benefit everyone and is a national value, religion of any sort does not represent everyone in society.

[jerryrlitton]

Chris, I do not see where anyone was imposing any religious beliefs on you.

Jon B, when you turn your back on religion you are so screwed. After all this is the basis of what this country once stood for before we got so divided. I'll be the money you have in your pockets says "In God We Trust" and it was there for a reason.

Jerry

[RAGNAR]

Originally Posted by SloopJonB

Mixing religion and politics is unconstitutional, whether or not the offender says it ain't religion.

I agree, but remind you that the reason the Founders wished to draw that line was because, in the broadest sense, they pro reason or, more relevant to our discussions here lately, they were against mysticism.

Problem for you, then, is that the Left's ideological foundation is as mystical as it gets. That's why you guys rewrite history, make up science, deny that reality is independent of our whims, cite the Volk's wishes which, BTW, you knowingly misrepresent, and do anything in debate but address the other side's points.

Worse than all this, is that so many of you see that you do this, know it's corrupt, and continue anyway by adjusting your expectations of human beings.

[SloopJonB]

Originally Posted by jerryrlitton

Chris, I do not see where anyone was imposing any religious beliefs on you.

Jon B, when you turn your back on religion you are so screwed. After all this is the basis of what this country once stood for before we got so divided. I'll be the money you have in your pockets says "In God We Trust" and it was there for a reason.

Jerry, I'm truly surprised at you - you spent your working life defending your country and its Constitution and after that declared yourself sworn to defend the Constitution with your oath but you don't agree with the separation of Church and State as set out in that Constitution?

I never said anyone should turn their back on religion, I just said it has no place in a political setting - just as your Constitution quite properly set forth. To my mind it has no place in ANY secular matters but that's a different story. A persons religion or lack of it is a purely private matter to me. If you were a Sikh, or Buddhist or Taoist or Shintoist or a member of any of the other big religions, how included would you feel if you lived in Texas right now? Would you regard Perry as representing YOU?

And the money in my pocket?? It says "Elizabeth II Regina"

[ssneade]

Originally Posted by SloopJonB

Sorry BW but I think SailNet now needs to add "Don't Like" and "Disagree" buttons. Mixing religion and politics is unconstitutional, whether or not the offender says it ain't religion.

now there's something we can agree on sloopy. i am a christian conservative, but i do not think my beliefs should be forced on another. religion should be taught and practiced in our everyday personal lives. but if an elected official calls for a time of prayer, it should be respected. he's not making you pray. he's not holding a gun to your head sayin', "pray or else muthrfkr". he's not doing anything to impede your right to life, liberty and your pursuit of happiness. but forced religion is bad. it's the same as sharia law.........

[ssneade]

Originally Posted by chrisncate

As a non religious person, I have trouble with having any religious beliefs being imposed on me and/or in my name, by a politician.

I'd be happy with ethics. Ethics in politics benefit everyone and is a national value, religion of any sort does not represent everyone in society.

ya, yer buddy bill clinton was the poster child for ethics and morality, eh?.....

[BentSailor]

Originally Posted by ssneade

now there's something we can agree on sloopy. i am a christian conservative, but i do not think my beliefs should be forced on another. religion should be taught and practiced in our everyday personal lives.

Pretty much agree with you there. Should one desire religion in one's life, it should stay a personal commitment, not one pushed onto others. Hell, I don't even push my desire for a non-religious life onto my children who are free to attend Church should they desire to do so. So far, they have only ever done so on special occasions for extended family events (weddings, baptisms, etc).

but if an elected official calls for a time of prayer, it should be respected. he's not making you pray. he's not holding a gun to your head sayin', "pray or else muthrfkr". he's not doing anything to impede your right to life, liberty and your pursuit of happiness. but forced religion is bad. it's the same as sharia law.........

And this is where I disagree. There is no need to "respect" an elected official's call for a time of prayer whatsoever in my opinion. Their position comes from their current position in a secular government. If they want to speak to their local church about it, that should be respected. Their position there is (or at least should be) focused around their religious beliefs and actions.

However, when an elected official speaks to those he represents in the government and calls for prayer, it should be as respected as if he were giving his opinion on the colour of your curtains or who should be America's Next Top Model.

Just my opinion, but that's all this thread is about, our opinion of Governor Rick Perry's actions

[PBzeer]

Pray tell, how is religion different than any other ideology?