This is interesting

[BentSailor]

Originally Posted by jackdale

Jefferson wrote scripture?

Some people treat it as such... you know, using some snippets as a basis for dogma whilst ignoring the bits they don't agree with.

[skygazer]

Originally Posted by jackdale

Skygazer

BTW - The original quote was completely discredited. Jerry retracted.

Do you mean the "Jefferson" quote? If so, thank you. I'd never heard it but he said many amazing things so one never knows.

Originally Posted by PCP

Well do you really believe this?

It is hard to believe that you are serious about this! Are you?

It is a bad thing that all the nations on earth join themselves to finish with war, poverty and hunger?

Only God has the legitimacy to do that?

If men try to accomplish that they will be led by Satan, because only God can do that?

Christ? why Christ and not Krishna? Allah? or the next one the Jews are still waiting for?

Regards

Paulo

Wow, slow down. I didn't chose to put the scripture at the UN, they did. I'm pointing out what it means.


Can't keep up.

Off topic?? It says at the top Politics/Religion/War/Government...........I did a darned fine job of putting all four into one post. In a thread under "off topic". Pretty good I'd say!!


I'm not wrong that I read that about the Romans, that's what I read. Perhaps what I read was right, perhaps not, perhaps we can't be sure.

Oh, by the way, I've never heard anything about the UN from any "religious right". My own observations when as a youth I saw the statue in NY city. Pretty sure there was no such thing as a "religious right" way way way back then. I don't bother following junk like this, but I do think for myself, and quite clearly.

Probably won't bother with this thread again, people seem too wound up and sure of themselves.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by skygazer

Do you mean the "Jefferson" quote? If so, thank you. I'd never heard it but he said many amazing things so one never knows.

Nope message #1

[BentSailor]

Originally Posted by skygazer

Wow, slow down. I didn't chose to put the scripture at the UN, they did. I'm pointing out what it means.

Pretty sure that stating that the UN is choosing "to be following Satan as their leader" is not something that you can factually claim to be the meaning of the scripture in question. You might interpret it that way, but there are a plenty of Christians (let alone people from other faiths) that would strongly disagree with you.

I'm not wrong that I read that about the Romans, that's what I read. Perhaps what I read was right, perhaps not, perhaps we can't be sure.

You might be right about reading it, but you'd be wrong in claiming "You had to be responsible and protect society to have the honor of voting. No goof offs voting for "bread and circuses"."

Oh, and we can be pretty sure of how the Romans & Athenians ran their governments - they avidly documented it, the reasons for it, and how said government worked out in practise. It makes for good reading if you are actually interested in following it up.

To sum up succinctly though, Romans didn't need to carry a sword to vote. There is ample documentation on the matter to prove a claim they did false. Points using said claim as a foundation need to be rethought

Oh, by the way, I've never heard anything about the UN from any "religious right". My own observations when as a youth I saw the statue in NY city. Pretty sure there was no such thing as a "religious right" way way way back then. I don't bother following junk like this, but I do think for myself, and quite clearly.

If you haven't heard of the UN conspiracies from the "religious right", you've been quite sheltered from them. Count it as a blessing, cos over-exposure lowers one's hope ini humanity

Probably won't bother with this thread again, people seem too wound up and sure of themselves.

Welcome to the political forums, mate

[jackdale]

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