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911 truth from an asset

The 2nd non Arab arrest from the Patriot Act. This is a must see.
I'm sure a Wombat wouldn't be interested and I'm glad!


I'm going to let her speak for herself, she's dadgum good at it.
She was held without a trial for 5 years.


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The 2nd non Arab arrest from the Patriot Act. This is a must see.
The "Patriot Act" - the most seditious, unAmerican act since the Japanese/American internments. George Orwell must be proud to see that doublespeak has become reality.
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I'm curious, which one, of the many issues come to the forefront here do you think are the most important? $13M was supposed to go to Iraq went to her "handler"? The secret vans in the WTC wks prior to 911, the sync of events? Norad was Heightened, not turned off??
Sooo much information.
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She makes a lot of sense.
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She makes a lot of sense.
She sounds like a conspiracy theorist to me. What sort of "CIA asset" was she?

Right off the top, I very much doubt the CIA would allow the FBI to arrest one of their people - the "turf" implications and rivalries make that unlikely.

The biggest problem I have with this sort of "revelation" is that secrets like this are impossible to keep for any length of time. Too many people are involved for it to remain under wraps. Unless everyone involved thinks it is right, such as the WWII secrets that have been kept all this time, the truth leaks out in multiple ways from multiple sources. One lone voice never blows the lid on a massive conspiracy involving large numbers of illegal acts and large numbers of dead - you simply can't keep it secret. Just look at Watergate.

One of the Moon Astronauts, Aldrin IIRC, responded to the suggestion of the landings being a big conspiracy to fake it by saying "if we were faking it, why did we do it 6 more times?" It would have taken the combined silence of over 400,000 people and their families & friends to keep it quiet.

I don't think so.
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Let me get this straight...this person hawking a book about the "conspiracy" inside the US government to bring down the WTC towers using Saudi "pilots" and covertly installed demolition munitions, a person who proudly states that she was against the first Gulf War (I guess the US govt set that one up, too), a person who is SO SURE that Sadaam was ready to open his kimono vis-a-vis his weapons program (even though he had been shooting at No Fly Zone pilots, north and south, for ten years) even while she was having hors d'ouevres with Iraqi officials wherever she could find them, and who is so sure Sadaam was ready to give US companies lucrative contracts for all the oil he didn't burn when he set fire to Kuwaiti fields as he retreated in 1991, this person...is more credible to some of you than your government officials? Gimme a break.

Having been a plebian member of the military industrial complex for almost 40 years of my life, and having departed it a few years ago proud of many of the things we accomplished while I was there, and having returned to being a knuckle dragging dirt farmer and citizen and sailor, I can attest that the vast majority of those who have, are, and will serve do so with nobility of spirit and heart, and with a keen understanding that the oath they take, not to man but to the Constitution, is their oath of honor, and they would not, in a New York minute, hesitate to hammer anyone at whatever level who suggested what this lady is intimating. Anyone who believes or states otherwise is a lunatic, or has an ulterior motive, usually lining their pockets.

During my time, I had occasion to look into the eyes of men of high and low station in military and intelligence fields, and from time to time deal with Congress, the White House, and the minions of those who wield the power of the purse. The men and women of the our military and our intelligence community are solid people of high character, by and large, and smart, and most won't breach their oath and know the difference between legal and illegal orders. Congress, the Executive, and their minions, not so much, because many of them are motivated in ways different from those who do the hard work. The men and women of the pointy end of the sword understand that, and they can spot rotten motivations and will, without reluctance, bring them to the attention of their flag and general officers, who are overwhelmingly made of the right stuff, ready to tell their superiors when they are off base, wrong, or ordering something illegal. Careers are ended from time to time because of it, but that is the nature of the service, and in most instances, even after a dismissal or resignation, right will win out.

Anyone who would swallow the tripe these folks are selling deserves to choke on it. In my mind, when I learn your leanings, I simply put you in my mental hopper alongside the strongest arguments for bringing back mental hospitals I know, Rosie O'Donnell and Al Sharpton, who live in a special purgatory in my mind.
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The truth behind 9/11 is that Americans are generally easily distracted, incapable of logical thought, and still refuse to recognize the real factors that made 9/11 possible and the folks who are really to blame.

Like Congress, who shut down our domestic sky marshal program because the airlines petitioned them in the 1980's "Its too expensive" and those same airlines, who went against all international policies by telling their crews to surrender the cockpit when threatened. Yes, it is that simple, as Pogo said "The enemy is us."

Elsewhere in 2001, three sky marshals in fleabag airlines stopped three hijackings by simply shooting the hijackers. And, as OBL himself said, only in America would they be able to take an aircraft by threatening to kill one of the flight attendants. Everywhere else in the world, the cabin door remained locked and the aircraft was immediately grounded, rendering the tactic impossible.

Of course, Tom Clancy's bestselling novel and movie showed the danger of using jetliners as bombs twenty years earlier, but that still didn't motivate anyone to deal with security.

Conspiracy? Yes, of greedy Congressman and greedy airliner operators, all enabled by the American Idiocracy, who still think the dog and pony show at the airport provides any kind of security.
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OMG, Bwalker, you delusional mean-spirited impressionable twit.
Spreading crap like this is an act of treason. Shame on you,
Do some research.
I'll help, wiht one easy to find reference, which actually (gasp) cites it's sources, something the youtube boob never does.
Susan Lindauer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This woman is a treasonous delusional nutbar. You have a lot in common, so i can see why you think she is a credible source.

Lindauer was not held for 5 years. She was not arrested under the Patriot Act.
Again, you reprint lies, which makes you either, a) a knowing liar, or b) an unknowing idiot, which may be why you are so easily hooked by thew tinfoil hat brigade. In fact, Lindauer may very well have committed treason. her sotries do not hold up under any sort of logical objective examination.
you know what was missing? Facts. Was it 10 trucks, or 12 trucks? Was it 10 consecutive nights or 12 nights before 9/11? Which building? Or are ALL the "tapes" missing from all 7 buildings on site? BTW, you do know that the security cams at the WTC were recorded on disc since 1999, right?
She has not one verifiable, provable fact, and in fact greatly exaggerates her relationship with the York U prof and her "CIA handler," both of which state in the NY Times article that she has an altered view of reality.
You do realize that the CIA doesn't do diplomacy, right? So her claim of working "backchannels" in the middle east for the CIA is illogical. State Department does Diplomacy. CIA does intelligence. HOWEVER, there is proof and documentation that she met with Intelligence agents from Libya, Iraq and Syria- this is info backed by the states in question, as well as the US. When the US AND their enemies agree something happened, then it likely happened the way it is said to have happened.


You insult the memory of all those who died in those attacks. Shame on you.
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BTW, troll, to get the "Truth" at the 9/11 truth convention that the underqualified and overblown "experts' were biliously spewing at their convention in Toronto, it would have cost you $200 to attend.

This guy refutes their sickening arguments for free.
Vaporizing the World Trade Center

Nutty 9-11 Physics

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Which side has real, verifiable facts? Which one is simply preying on the stupid and impressionable by charging them to learn a myth they call the truth?
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