Remember the Kent State Massacre

[bwalker42]

Originally Posted by Dirtboy

Same thing the successes of the Bush and Clinton and Obama say about us, the American people.

We aren't perfect. The fact that we are more open, more aggressive, more intense than most isn't really a negative.

As a "bleadin heart liberal" I naturally see more negativity in the Bush years and freely admit my bias.

As far as Clinton's failures, he couldn't get health cars passed and he likes sex (a little too much.) Tell you what. I'd pay for a pro to come in once a month and give whoever is pres a most exquisite BJ if he can get the country back on track.

As to Mr. Obama, his main failure is his inability to fix the screwed up mess he was handed. He spent his political capital on health care, a program I'm 100% for, when he should have started his jobs bill first thing.

Both Clinton and Obama have done really great things and both continue to strive for things I believe in.

A proud American,

DB

I agree with sentance one and two, three is a personal perspective.

Obama has been like Bush on steroids, the only thing I've seen is an elaborate increase in big gvt., spending, and backwards results.

The healthcare overhaul is just another way to screw americans big time.

It seems like they feel like they can't kill us fast enough.

[SloopJonB]

Originally Posted by Dirtboy

As to Mr. Obama, his main failure is his inability to fix the screwed up mess he was handed. He spent his political capital on health care, a program I'm 100% for, when he should have started his jobs bill first thing.

Absolutely right - I couldn't believe that Obama pi$$ed away his initial 2 year opportunity to fix things when he owned everything. He should never have tried being reasonable and conciliatory with a bunch of selfish, screaming children who only wanted to destroy him. Bill Maher said he thought Obama needed some "Bush" backbone - he didn't agree with Bush but he couldn't fault him for his follow through on what he wanted to do.

Obama also blew it by not postponing health care once he knew the full scope of the mess he had been handed. You don't buy a new car the day after you lose your job.

[Carl259]

What's so hard to believe?? His own party distrust him. He and his wife have disdain for this country and the average democratic voter thinks he ran against Bush. He is the perfect Democrat!

[tdw]

Originally Posted by jackdale

I have posted this before, but check out the Project for a New American Century.

I finally worked out how to download the damn thing and got to watch it on Saturday evening as ye olde Womboate bobbed about at anchor.

Folks, if only ten percent of that doco is true then it is a very scarey film. I suspect that a tadge more of it true than that. Very scarey indeed.

Thanks for the recommendation Jack.

Peoples , if you havn't watched it, do so.

[WouldaShoulda]

Originally Posted by SloopJonB

Any of the usual suspects want to weigh in on the need for smaller government and the leeches that are destroying America by living off the hard work of others?

[SloopJonB]

Originally Posted by WouldaShoulda

WS - if that was directed at me , I always saw myself more as the Bert Lahr character.

[WouldaShoulda]

Originally Posted by SloopJonB

WS - if that was directed at me , I always saw myself more as the Bert Lahr character.

HA!!

Yes.

The staw man is directed to the implication that the truely needy be cut off from assistance.

It is not a goal of the need for smaller government or that leeches that are destroying America by living off the hard work of others, but some people want us to beleive it is.

[Carl259]

Originally Posted by WouldaShoulda

HA!!

Yes.

The staw man is directed to the implication that the truely needy be cut off from assistance.

It is not a goal of the need for smaller government or that leeches that are destroying America by living off the hard work of others, but some people want us to beleive it is.

Could you translate this Please??

[WouldaShoulda]

Originally Posted by Carl259

Could you translate this Please??

A straw man is a component of an argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.[1] To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position

Straw man - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia