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Police raid Occupy Wall St.: Rights defender in critical condition, 8 arrests
Add a comment Deborah Dupre, Human Rights Examiner
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On Occupation of Wall Street Day Four of the "American Revolution II," with a total of eight arrests, six on Monday, civil rights lawyers were on the scene at noon Tuesday after police reportedly raided the protesting human rights defenders' peaceful encampment leaving one in critical condition, others thrown to the ground, and the rest of the world in the dark by confiscating the livestream equipment. Occupy Wall Street issued a report near mid-day Tuesday stating they "hope police did not murder" the man having an asthma attack as a group of police officers attacked him and ignored medics saying he needed an ambulance.

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"One of the medics on site informed the police that they needed to call an ambulance because this was a potentially fatal circumstance. They ignored him. We have no current information on this protester, but we hope that he hasn't been murdered by the police," reported Occupy Wall Street, an initiative driven collectively without a leader. (See Youtube video of police raid embedded on this page left below Getty Image.)

"Anonymous has issued a series of statements alleging police have increased their presence arresting," reported IB Times around noon on Tuesday.

"2 members of #OccupyWallStreet media team & another person arrested for trying to use a tarp to protect communications equipment from rain," read the AnonOps tweet according to IBTimes.

After arrests were made for wearing masks and writing on sidewalks with sidewalk chalk, The New York Times reported late Monday, "In a continuation of the demonstrations that began Saturday, nearly 200 protesters marched along Wall Street and other parts of the financial district Monday morning, brandishing American flags and signs denouncing the economic system. At least six of them were arrested."

"The first three arrests came on Pine Street, when a police lieutenant ordered that two men wearing ski masks be taken into custody. Officers then arrested a woman wearing a plastic mask on the back of her head."

"The next arrest came a few minutes later on when a deputy inspector standing on Wall Street ordered a man wearing an orange hat to keep moving. The man, who had turned around in a crowded sidewalk just west of Broad Street, spoke to the inspector for a moment, then lifted his hands and said that he was having difficulty moving." (NYTimes)

According to theTimes, what its reporters saw conflicts with what police stated about one arrest:

"Another man was arrested, and the police initially said he was charged with jumping a police barrier and resisting arrest. But a reporter and a photographer for The Times who witnessed and documented the episode between the man in the orange hat and the police did not see him attempting to jump a barrier. Late in the afternoon, the police said the man was charged with committing disorderly conduct by impeding pedestrian traffic, not with jumping a barrier.

Using a megaphone, police had told the rights defenders they needed to take camping tarps down "but did not deliver an order signifying anyone would be under arrest and held responsible for 'not properly' complying according to Firedog Lake that is also monitoring Tweets, the protesters main source of communicating.

Occupy Wall Street reported:

"The first arrest was a protester who objected to the police removing a tarp that was protecting our media equipment from the rain. The police said that the tarp constituted a tent, in spite of it not being a habitat in any way. Police continued pressuring protesters with extralegal tactics, saying that a protester on a bullhorn was breaking a law. The protester refused to cease exercising his first amendment rights and was also arrested.

"Then the police began to indiscriminately attempt to arrest protesters, many of them unsheathed their batons, in spite of the fact that the protest remained peaceful.

"One of the protesters received a large gash on their leg, another lost a tooth.

"Multiple police tackled a protester and sat on him as he continually warned them that he was experiencing an asthma attack. One of the medics on site informed the police that they needed to call an ambulance because this was a potentially fatal circumstance.

"They ignored him. We have no current information on this protester, but we hope that he hasn't been murdered by the police."

At 11:47, a communique from Occupy Wall Street stated, "Best video of the police raid on the camp this morning." (See embedded Youtube on page left.)

"1:00 PM What is playing on LiveStream is the last footage that will be seen (for now). Police seized the equipment being used to broadcast footage from the scene. There are lawyers at the occupation site right now who are willing to represent the entire occupation pro bono," reports Firedog Lake.

Firedog Lake highlights, "This is much harder to do if more people support the occupation. The answer to this police conduct is not to be frightened. The appropriate response, if in the NYC area, is to go to the park and join the occupation. You don’t have to sleep there overnight but spend some time showing you support the risks people are taking."

Police brutality on those they are arresting is mentioned in another Tweet just before 1;00 pm, "NYPD/CIA plastic cuffs so tight protester has bleeding wrists. (#usdor #takewallstreet #occupywallstreet OCCUPY WALL STREET PROTESTERS' ARRESTS - YouTube)

Another Tweet shortly before 2:00 pm from #odotm reports police stomping the ankle of a person on the ground.

Another Occupy Wall Street Twitter message later sent said, "Why NYPD/CIA? Commissioner Confirms CIA Working Out Of NYPD Headquarters Police Commissioner Confirms CIA Officer Working Out Of NYPD Headquarters | Fox News #usdor #takewallstreet #occupywallstreet."

While mainstream news sources continue to report low numbers of the occupation, IBTimes states, "Reports now generally estimate the number of protesters at around 200, though it is worth noting a number of claims sent to the IBTimes have since disputed this, claiming the actual number is far higher."

A Tweet just before 3:00 pm stated, " C-span, i hate to clue you in. Ignoring what is happening on Wall Street will not work. The protest will grow." (@cspanwj #occupywallstreet)

The Times reports, "For two nights, the park was turned into a campsite."

"Protesters slept wrapped in blankets and sleeping bags, partly insulated from the chilly ground by pieces of cardboard scavenged from nearby stores."

American censorship at work

By Monday night, Tweets began messaging email censorship of text with "Occupy Wall Street."

Tuesday afternoon, Tweets about censorship continued, such as on by Kletskous Catharina: "Yahoo is blocking people from sending any email that mentions #OccupyWallStreet is.gd/gFE5zz #censorship."

On a website called TechDirt, a post Tuesday is titled, "Is Yahoo Blocking People From Sending Any Email That Mentions OccupyWallSt.org?" The post is complete with a Youtube demonstrating the rights violation.

"Zacqary Adam Green points us to the rumor that Yahoo Mail, in its infinite wisdom, has decided that no one should be allowed to send any emails that merely mention the websitehttp://OccupyWallSt.org. That's the website of the folks currently protesting in NY. Zacqary decided to test this out and produced a video showing Yahoo sending a bunch of lorem ipsum (gibberish) text without a problem -- and then refusing to send the same text once he added the URL at the bottom. We did some testing ourselves, and it appears that the message will go through if you just type OccupyWallSt.org. But if you do the full URL, with the http:... well, then you might just be a terrorist or something.

"The message provided by Yahoo is that it refuses to send the email because "suspicious activity" was detected on the account and to protect' the user, the message has not been sent," writes Green. "We also noted that once this happens, Yahoo starts asking you to input a captcha to send future emails. Because, um, linking to that one URL makes Yahoo claim you're a bot."

"Seriously, Yahoo? First off, it's troubling enough that Yahoo has apparently decided that merely mentioning a URL can have your messages blocked from being sent entirely. But almost as bad is claiming that it's to "protect" the user."

The occupation began Saturday with around 2,000 people rallying in Manhattan's Financial District according to counters in New York, while many media reported 1,000 participants.

The initial call-to-arms asked for 20,000, a number the occupiers still hope to see.

Occupy Wall Street wrote in its communique Tuesday, "By 7 AM ET Sunday morning, we still held the plaza under constant police presence. Another assembly is scheduled for 10 AM ET today."

Lawyer Sam Cohen stated, “We believe what is going on here represents the core of freedom of expression/association guaranteed by the US Constitution.”

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[bwalker42]

After revistiting Legends of the Fall with Brad Pitt, I've come to the conclusion time will not heal our elected leaders.
They are Mad, in an insane way. Truly crazy and out of touch with reality. (Irrespective of how good their intentions when elected, when they go in, they get endoctrinated.)
And it makes me believe that even though OSB had his goons hijack airplanes and fly them into the WTC, our elected leaders had been chomping at the bit for a false flag attack. And even though no one can prove anything, I wouldn't put it past them.
Let me make myself perfectly clear on what I believe of this.

I'm not saying I believe they did do it, I'm saying it's entirely possible they had their destructive little hands in it, waiting for it to happen so they could do their deed. I'm not saying I believe they did not do it.
I think the truth will be interesting.

After all, if they can make our own children turn guns on us like at kent state, they are capable of anything up to and including doing that on a national level, which is what Fema is at the head of.

[SloopJonB]

Originally Posted by bwalker42

our elected leaders had been chomping at the bit for a false flag attack. And even though no one can prove anything, I wouldn't put it past them.

I am about as far from a conspiracy theorist as one can get but I think this is absolutely true - Bush II, Cheney, Rumsfeld et. al. were just waiting for the opportunity to finish Bush I's Gulf War. They were straining so hard at the leash that they saw what they wanted in the flawed intel that they used to justify the Iraq incursion.

If I knew they wouldn't find any WMD, surely the entire American Intel community knew it. It was obvious after the Gerald Bull incident that Israel wouldn't let Saddam have anything that threatened their very existence.

The only conclusion one can draw is that they (Bush et. al.) WANTED to invade Iraq even if it meant false justifications.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by SloopJonB

I am about as far from a conspiracy theorist as one can get but I think this is absolutely true - Bush II, Cheney, Rumsfeld et. al. were just waiting for the opportunity to finish Bush I's Gulf War. They were straining so hard at the leash that they saw what they wanted in the flawed intel that they used to justify the Iraq incursion.

If I knew they wouldn't find any WMD, surely the entire American Intel community knew it. It was obvious after the Gerald Bull incident that Israel wouldn't let Saddam have anything that threatened their very existence.

The only conclusion one can draw is that they (Bush et. al.) WANTED to invade Iraq even if it meant false justifications.

I have posted this before, but check out the Project for a New American Century.

We seem to have forgotten the essential elements of the Reagan Administration's success: a military that is strong and ready to meet both present and future challenges; a foreign policy that boldly and purposefully promotes American principles abroad; and national leadership that accepts the United States' global responsibilities.

Of course, the United States must be prudent in how it exercises its power. But we cannot safely avoid the responsibilities of global leadership or the costs that are associated with its exercise. America has a vital role in maintaining peace and security in Europe, Asia, and the Middle East. If we shirk our responsibilities, we invite challenges to our fundamental interests. The history of the 20th century should have taught us that it is important to shape circumstances before crises emerge, and to meet threats before they become dire. The history of this century should have taught us to embrace the cause of American leadership.

Our aim is to remind Americans of these lessons and to draw their consequences for today. Here are four consequences:

• we need to increase defense spending significantly if we are to carry out our global
responsibilities today and modernize our armed forces for the future;

• we need to strengthen our ties to democratic allies and to challenge regimes hostile to our interests and values;

• we need to promote the cause of political and economic freedom abroad;

• we need to accept responsibility for America's unique role in preserving and extending an international order friendly to our security, our prosperity, and our principles.

Statement of Principles

Further, the process of transformation,
even if it brings revolutionary change, is
likely to be a long one, absent some
catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a
new Pearl Harbor.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/Re...asDefenses.pdf

Guess who signed the Statement of Principles.

[bljones]

A democracy gets the leadership they deserve.
So what do the failures of Bush and Clinton and Obama say about you, the american people?

pogo was right.

Want to change things?
Here's a thought, but maybe spend less time cutting and pasting and getting your opinions from youtube and more time actually thinking.

most homes in america now have three TVs and three computers, but the average american reads less than one book a year.
The USA is one of the few countries in the world where literacy has not improved over the last generation. test scores have plateaued or declined.
And y'all are worried about the president's birth certificate?

It's not the government's fault the average citizen is ill-informed and apathetic. It's yours.

[Alibaba]

KENT STATE.. I dont live too far from there.
Tin soldiers and Nixons coming .......
Soldiers are gunning us down...

A few months later I was drafted ti in the US Army..
that ended up paying off now in 2011. I had stroke (blood clot to the brain) on May 16 2011, just a few weeks before my 60th birthday.. I couldn`t get back to work to get back my mediacal coverage so now I am enjoying the Great Govt VA Healtcare system.. No complaints here.. Thank you Uncle Sam.

you guys still here on SAillnet..??

I last visiited here in May. ARguing War $ Peace.. I just suddenly remembered a few simple thing an logged back on.. Its great to see the same folks.. My biggest mistake was selling my Salboat. All those drugs they gave me, Terrible nightmares.. was convinced my mac 26X was going to kill me so I sold it without realiing what I did..

Maybe I should start a new Topic.. It can happen to you in America.

One serious ailment, loss of income, loss of healthcare, your screwed if you dont have a safety net like I have the VA system.. not to mention My pension fund/Annuity when most needed is going down fast.. Wall Street loses yu lose. I wionder if they will be understanding and give me my money back so I dont have to burden the Tax Payers with Soc SEc Disability., which I already been turned down unless I can prove I cant work.. When my Construction comapany found out I had a stroke they laid me off. I doubt they will call me back.. Told me to take an early retirement., which will quckly put me in the Red with taxes, Utilitys and expenses. I need to be 62 to collect Sov Sec. and who knows what could happen in the next two years..

Anyways .. I`m Back.. with more reasons to keep Repubublicans out of Govt.

[SloopJonB]

Originally Posted by Alibaba

KENT STATE.. I dont live too far from there.
Tin soldiers and Nixons coming .......
Soldiers are gunning us down...

A few months later I was drafted ti in the US Army..
that ended up paying off now in 2011. I had stroke (blood clot to the brain) on May 16 2011, just a few weeks before my 60th birthday.. I couldn`t get back to work to get back my mediacal coverage so now I am enjoying the Great Govt VA Healtcare system.. No complaints here.. Thank you Uncle Sam.

you guys still here on SAillnet..??

I last visiited here in May. ARguing War $ Peace.. I just suddenly remembered a few simple thing an logged back on.. Its great to see the same folks.. My biggest mistake was selling my Salboat. All those drugs they gave me, Terrible nightmares.. was convinced my mac 26X was going to kill me so I sold it without realiing what I did..

Maybe I should start a new Topic.. It can happen to you in America.

One serious ailment, loss of income, loss of healthcare, your screwed if you dont have a safety net like I have the VA system.. not to mention My pension fund/Annuity when most needed is going down fast.. Wall Street loses yu lose. I wionder if they will be understanding and give me my money back so I dont have to burden the Tax Payers with Soc SEc Disability., which I already been turned down unless I can prove I cant work.. When my Construction comapany found out I had a stroke they laid me off. I doubt they will call me back.. Told me to take an early retirement., which will quckly put me in the Red with taxes, Utilitys and expenses. I need to be 62 to collect Sov Sec. and who knows what could happen in the next two years..

Anyways .. I`m Back.. with more reasons to keep Repubublicans out of Govt.

Sorry to hear of your travails - best wishes for the future.

Any of the usual suspects want to weigh in on the need for smaller government and the leeches that are destroying America by living off the hard work of others?

[Dirtboy]

pogo was right.

True, but please, don't exclude yourself .................

It's not the government's fault the average citizen is ill-informed and apathetic. It's yours.

Yep, you are correct, sir.

DB

[Dirtboy]

So what do the failures of Bush and Clinton and Obama say about you, the American people?

Same thing the successes of the Bush and Clinton and Obama say about us, the American people.

We aren't perfect. The fact that we are more open, more aggressive, more intense than most isn't really a negative.

As a "bleadin heart liberal" I naturally see more negativity in the Bush years and freely admit my bias.

As far as Clinton's failures, he couldn't get health cars passed and he likes sex (a little too much.) Tell you what. I'd pay for a pro to come in once a month and give whoever is pres a most exquisite BJ if he can get the country back on track.

As to Mr. Obama, his main failure is his inability to fix the screwed up mess he was handed. He spent his political capital on health care, a program I'm 100% for, when he should have started his jobs bill first thing.

Both Clinton and Obama have done really great things and both continue to strive for things I believe in.

A proud American,

DB

[bwalker42]

Originally Posted by Alibaba

KENT STATE.. I dont live too far from there.
Tin soldiers and Nixons coming .......
Soldiers are gunning us down...

A few months later I was drafted ti in the US Army..
that ended up paying off now in 2011. I had stroke (blood clot to the brain) on May 16 2011, just a few weeks before my 60th birthday.. I couldn`t get back to work to get back my mediacal coverage so now I am enjoying the Great Govt VA Healtcare system.. No complaints here.. Thank you Uncle Sam.

you guys still here on SAillnet..??

I last visiited here in May. ARguing War $ Peace.. I just suddenly remembered a few simple thing an logged back on.. Its great to see the same folks.. My biggest mistake was selling my Salboat. All those drugs they gave me, Terrible nightmares.. was convinced my mac 26X was going to kill me so I sold it without realiing what I did..

Maybe I should start a new Topic.. It can happen to you in America.

One serious ailment, loss of income, loss of healthcare, your screwed if you dont have a safety net like I have the VA system.. not to mention My pension fund/Annuity when most needed is going down fast.. Wall Street loses yu lose. I wionder if they will be understanding and give me my money back so I dont have to burden the Tax Payers with Soc SEc Disability., which I already been turned down unless I can prove I cant work.. When my Construction comapany found out I had a stroke they laid me off. I doubt they will call me back.. Told me to take an early retirement., which will quckly put me in the Red with taxes, Utilitys and expenses. I need to be 62 to collect Sov Sec. and who knows what could happen in the next two years..

Anyways .. I`m Back.. with more reasons to keep Repubublicans out of Govt.

I am very sorry to hear of the tough time you have been having. I am glad you have the VA safety net I will pray for you like you are my own.

I Understand everything you are saying here and I don't know if it's a republican/democrat problem. These days I can't tell the difference except with Ron Paul. All the others seem to be politics as usual.

Their grade school mentality became evident to me in the Clinton years.
They articulate their fights like they were in junior high, or less.

I intend to look at;
a voting history
b who makes campaign contributions to them
c where do they invest

before I make my educated decision, but I pretty much have my mind made up. After all a leopard can't change his spots.

I believe we need to clean house at all levels in gvt. and make it smaller. Get big gvt out of everything and revive the country.


Thank you for sharing your Kent State experience, I appreciate you more than you know. Big big hugs, sorry bout your boat. I know anyone in the area will be glad to have you aboard! You are a precious soul, Love you like a bro!