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The Law is a LIE
Unless it upholds God's law, it's a lie!
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If their manade laws were true, they would not change!
I'm peacefully non compliant.
Thank you very much.
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Hmmm....
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Originally Posted by bwalker42
Unless it upholds God's law, it's a lie!
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If their manade laws were true, they would not change!
I'm peacefully non compliant.
Thank you very much.
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a. Who's God? Yours I'm guessing.
b. Religion and man's under standing of God changes over time. I doubt very much you have studied ancient texts in cuneiform, and if you had, you could not understand the context of the time. Any original understanding is necessarily lost.
c. Most people, when they are honest with themselves and out of the public eye, have concluded God is a human-created fiction. Thus, His laws are politically influenced (I imagine all laws are) human constructs. Human laws honestly declare their creation by election, vote, and the courts (in a republic); the origin of Gods law is more clouded.
I will let others point out that many biblical laws are in negative moral contrast with today's law. Those were rough times.
I'm glad you thanked us for permitting your peaceful noncompliance; that's a characteristic of republics, something not permitted in a theocracy, who's laws are those of God.
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Originally Posted by pdqaltair
a. Who's God? Yours I'm guessing.
b. Religion and man's under standing of God changes over time. I doubt very much you have studied ancient texts in cuneiform, and if you had, you could not understand the context of the time. Any original understanding is necessarily lost.
c. Most people, when they are honest with themselves and out of the public eye, have concluded God is a human-created fiction. Thus, His laws are politically influenced (I imagine all laws are) human constructs. Human laws honestly declare their creation by election, vote, and the courts (in a republic); the origin of Gods law is more clouded.
I will let others point out that many biblical laws are in negative moral contrast with today's law. Those were rough times.
I'm glad you thanked us for permitting your peaceful noncompliance; that's a characteristic of republics, something not permitted in a theocracy, who's laws are those of God.
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1-Jesus is my God, He is the only begotten Son of the Most High God, Yehweh, Who I worship. I am not ashamed. I love and trust His Holy Spirit.
2-You are wrong, very wrong.
3-Most people don't like others accusing them of things they do not do in private. Unless you are in the privacy of "most folks" homes, you would not know the matter. As for me...I will never recant
"He told me to go preach the Gospel, saying the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand." 08/2005
I have heard the voice of Jesus, The Holy Spirit, The Eagle Angel told me to "Flea fornication." 1999
I have seen God the Father in a dream. He was sitting on a throne and the children happly played at his feet. 2003 after my struggle with Big Red, Pirate of Pine Island. But I will not fully disclose the remnants of my dream till he, POPI comes back.
you can teach and misguide people all you want but when it all comes down,
"When the blind lead the blind, they both fall into the ditch." Jesus
Jesus voice is Full of Authority, and I love it!
Oh and one more thing. Jesus told me "OCCUPY till I come." Jan 01, 2010.
I don't recon I have been doing a very good job of that.
We will all answer to One God.
"I will reward everyone according to their works." What Jesus said to me in 1999, as I was praying for someone for their works toward me. I was asking Him for mercy on a mans soul.
The things we do in private, will be made public. You can count on it, but that also goes for those evil wicked leaders, and bankers.
You have no rule over my life, You can kill me, but you can't send my soul to hell, only One can do that. I fear Him, righteously so.
Also, your opinion is just that, an opinion. If you judge me wrongly, you bear it.
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[QUOTE=bwalker42;791529]1-Jesus is my God, He is the only begotten Son of the Most High God, Yehweh, Who I worship. I am not ashamed. I love and trust His Holy Spirit.
2-You are wrong, very wrong.
3-Most people don't like others accusing them of things they do not do in private. Unless you are in the privacy of "most folks" homes, you would not know the matter. As for me...I will never recant
1- Christianity is not the majority declaration ( Major religious groups - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) so you have presented a minority opinion, not a fact. There is no information about the depth of faith--I'm guessing it run shallow in some areas and deeper in others--we can only guess from behaviors. And the fervency of behavior does not guarantee that he faith is well-considered or wise. Most expressions of faith are hereditary. Christianity is, of course, your faith.
2- Come on, you're being silly. Perhaps you believe nothing has ever changed; others do, and I said man, clearly meaning mankind. A true statement that you don't agree with or like.
3- Touchy. Again, I was clearly not talking about you. A great many people will say they believe what ever is politically popular; I'm not suggesting that is right, only that it is true.
As for the scripture, my view is that it is the over-used opinion of an ancient writer, no more, not worthy of much review. Threats are unbecoming in public rhetoric and not often credible.
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However, it is unarguable that our law is based upon judo-christian traditions, combined with more modern sensibilities (eg. ancient food rules and burial rules related to ancient sanitation issues). We should talk about what can be better, not about where we differ.
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by Joe Brown, English rock climber
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Repent!!
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bw, you've been cruelly deceived. The god that Jesus worshipped, the "God of the Jews" was extensively documented, supposedly in his own words, as being one of many gods. A god who acknowledged other gods, and promised only that he'd make a compact with one people if they came to his territory, as opposed to the lands of other gods, and worshipped him, as opposed to other gods.
If you haven't learned that, you need to try studying the bible with scholars instead of tent preachers. "Go down to Egypt and I shall go there with thee" remember that line? Now, why would a god need to say he'll go someplace...unless he normally wasn't going to be found there? That's right, other lands, other gods.
Or as one of the ten commandments says "Thou shalt have no other gods before me." Not false gods, but other gods being worshipped ahead of the one commanding. Yeah, it's that simple. As your god believed in other gods, who are you to contradict that?
If you only have room for one, you've been decieved most cruelly, and your intolerance is the problem. Oh wait, that's right, that'd be the same Jesus that sponsored the Inquisition and "convert or die by the sword, or worse".
Open your eyes, bw. You've been confusing gods and devils.
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ONe Nation Under God, with Libery and Justice for ALL..
One Nation Under G.O.D. Guns Oil Drugs
Libedrty and Justice for all who can afford Lobbyists, Lawyers or the appeals processs
No offense to God, just pointing out that there is plenty of room for imnprovement .
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Wish I could see your picture sweetie!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hellosailor
bw, you've been cruelly deceived. The god that Jesus worshipped, the "God of the Jews" was extensively documented, supposedly in his own words, as being one of many gods. A god who acknowledged other gods, and promised only that he'd make a compact with one people if they came to his territory, as opposed to the lands of other gods, and worshipped him, as opposed to other gods.
If you haven't learned that, you need to try studying the bible with scholars instead of tent preachers. "Go down to Egypt and I shall go there with thee" remember that line? Now, why would a god need to say he'll go someplace...unless he normally wasn't going to be found there? That's right, other lands, other gods.
Or as one of the ten commandments says "Thou shalt have no other gods before me." Not false gods, but other gods being worshipped ahead of the one commanding. Yeah, it's that simple. As your god believed in other gods, who are you to contradict that?
If you only have room for one, you've been decieved most cruelly, and your intolerance is the problem. Oh wait, that's right, that'd be the same Jesus that sponsored the Inquisition and "convert or die by the sword, or worse".
Open your eyes, bw. You've been confusing gods and devils.
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Haven't we been through this before sailor??
Psalms 82:6 I have said "Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
Is it not written in your law, I said ye are gods? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, the scripture cannot be broken. John 32
He is the only begotten Son of God. Period.
The firstborn of many brethren.
God is King of the Universe.
We were created by Him, for Him. What makes us gods (little g) is He made us in His image, and likeness. Not just in His image, but in His likeness.
He is Daddy God, we are children gods. He gives us choices.
God is the perfect gentleman. He is Father, He gave us Jesus, and His Holy Spirit when we receive Him.
So Jesus becomes our brother, Saviour, friend that sticks closer than a brother,(yo mama's son) And the Father has made Him King of kings and Lord of lords.
Notice the caps.
He is Lord, we have lords, but He is over all.
He is King, (remember how to treat a king?) He is King of the earthly kings.
So all who walk in any authority, such as Obama, etc... answer to God.
Even Satan himself, answers to God.
But the devil has been kicked out of heaven, and cast down to earth, till he is put away forever.
God the Father sent Jesus for many reasons. One is to destroy the works of the devil.
Thank you Jesus!
Also to teach us about Him and that we can be like Him. Not above Him, but as He is. He also came to bring Salvation to the earth.
No I'm not confused. I'm just remembering who I am.
I loved it when Jesus got into the boat and said. "Lets go to the other side of the lake." Luv it Luv it, Luv it! He wasn't just going boating, He did one of his greatest miracles there.
The greatest sailing story is in the bible.
The sailors I have read it to say they have never heard it like the way I read it, and when I read it to them they understand it.
It's in Paul's sailing log. It's in the bible.
Bon nuit, that's Texas French for Good night.
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