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Will Inequality Keep Getting Worse? - Megan McArdle - Business - The Atlantic

The final paragraph sums it up pretty well.
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As opposed, of course, to the plethora of left wing philosophies that have permeated the educational system.

Let's see, like "self-esteem above all", "teachers are not allowed to fail anyone", and of course "political correctness run wild".

All I have to ask is my sister, my daughter, and my girl friend, all of them teachers, how frustrated they are dealing with that scat. After all, it just isn't PC to hold children, or their parents for that matter, responsible.
+1. I'm a ret. teacher. Our education system is the apex of ultra liberal, academic hogwash.
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You mean "....that we simply don't know......"??

I prefer "..... If you believe that rich people have wormed their way into the political system and used it to redirect wealth to themselves . . . well, I haven't noticed any deworming....."

Yes they have and he's right, there's no one stopping them. Congress is even trying to take the teeth out of Congressional "Insider Trade Bill".
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.....Personally, I don't like NCLB. Not because it's bad law, but unnecessary law. Education is a community responsibility, accountable to state standards. It needs neither the heavy hand of Washington on it, nor the draining of revenues so that Washington can decide how best to distribute it.
You were safe John, Bush never fully funded it, leaving States to fend for themselves..
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I prefer "..... If you believe that rich people have wormed their way into the political system and used it to redirect wealth to themselves . . . well, I haven't noticed any deworming....."
Of course you would, because it supports you're view. I could have pulled the quotes that support mine. But, as I did say, this is the best quote:

"I think the answer at the moment is that we simply don't know--I'm not sure there's empirical reason to prefer one story or the other. I do think that we should be wary of confident extrapolations in either direction."

And in particular, the last sentence.
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Unwed Childbearing is the ‘New Normal’? Depends on Where You Stand - By Rachel Sheffield - The Corner - National Review Online
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I prefer "..... If you believe that rich people have wormed their way into the political system and used it to redirect wealth to themselves . . . well, I haven't noticed any deworming....."
Is that how the 1% keep the impovershed pregnant and stupid??

The “new normal” in lower-income America compounds negative economic trends among this population. Having a child outside of marriage is one of the greatest drivers of poverty. Children born into single-parent homes are roughly five times more likely to be poor than their peers with married parents and 80 percent of all long-term poverty occurs in single-parent homes.

As a result, marriage and education are becoming the dividing lines of an economically split America.
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Is that how the 1% keep the impovershed pregnant and stupid??

The “new normal” in lower-income America compounds negative economic trends among this population. Having a child outside of marriage is one of the greatest drivers of poverty. Children born into single-parent homes are roughly five times more likely to be poor than their peers with married parents and 80 percent of all long-term poverty occurs in single-parent homes.

As a result, marriage and education are becoming the dividing lines of an economically split America.
Both of which can be addressed, but it requires a desire, and frankly, the input, of willing parents.

I don't necessarily agree that having unwed mothers is the issue, but I certainly agree that not having two parents in a child's live is essential. Besides, if the parents are common-law, that really is no different then marriage.

It is the lack of a positive male role model and parent that is the cause of much of these problems, and as a result of multi-generational acceptance of it being a norm, plus the reliance on welfare, makes a turn around exceptionally difficult.
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It is the lack of a positive male role model and parent that is the cause of much of these problems, and as a result of multi-generational acceptance of it being a norm, plus the reliance on welfare, makes a turn around exceptionally difficult.
What level of taxation on the wealthy or government spending will correct the problem??
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What level of taxation on the wealthy or government spending will correct the problem??
Maybe a wiser expenditures of existing funds would be a start, including drug testing, work for welfare or schooling.... your choice.

Drug testing... that is a no-brainer, and how can anyone be opposed to that if someone is receiving welfare.

Work for welfare establishes self-esteem and a work ethic.

Alternatively, get schooling that will enable one to get off welfare.

A given would be to take classes in nutrition and wise shopping.

Nothing harsh or radical in any of this, just common sense. You know, the old hand up philosophy?
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