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Question Should Israel use Military Force to Prevent Iran from Producing Nuclear Weapons?

Just curious to know some of the opinions on here. As we all know (or can easily read up on) Israel is leaning ever closer to a military strike against Irans nuclear program.
Two things will happen. Either Israel will attack Iran and the mid-east will be engulfed in conflict with world wide ramifications.
Or, Iran is allowed to produce Nuclear weapons and eventually though Iran directly or some state-sponsored terrorist organization an attack will occur against the West igniting a wide spread conflict with world wide implications.

Of course some people will argue that Iran will develop the technology for peace and Israel and Iran will be friends and peace will prevail in Palestine.. Those people are being VERY optimistic but to each their own.

So what should our Ally do? Should they wait? Should they attack? Should they continue trying to go through the UN? Should they do nothing?
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Stuxnet

I thought Stuxnet worm/the Duqu virus permanently disabled it.

This is the evolution of warfare - computer worms and viruses to destroy the systems on which we all depend.

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Two things will happen. Either Israel will attack Iran and the mid-east will be engulfed in conflict with world wide ramifications.
This premise is unfounded.

Facilities in Iraq where bombed by Israel, Iraq was repelled in '91 and invaded in '02 without "world wide ramifications." So it will be the same with Iran.

A Naval blockade should be imposed now, while air strikes should be imposed later. If there is positive regime change there the blockade can be lifted and the air strikes rendered un-necessary.
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It's moot - even those fascist nutbars running Iran know they become a parking lot the minute they go to first use.

It also appears they have pretty well immunized their installations against air attack - they look like Thunder mountain.

The continued judicious assassinations of their nuke scientists and continued cyber attacks seem to be the best options right now. That and leaning on China to quit supporting them.
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This premise is unfounded.

Facilities in Iraq where bombed by Israel, Iraq was repelled in '91 and invaded in '02 without "world wide ramifications." So it will be the same with Iran.

A Naval blockade should be imposed now, while air strikes should be imposed later. If there is positive regime change there the blockade can be lifted and the air strikes rendered un-necessary.
You may not be far from your suggestion as the USNavy is deploying a second carrier to the region, when normally there's only one.

As for "what should Israel do", I'd think that if something happened and Canada decided to develop nuclear weapons and intelligence verified it was with the intent to do us harm, I believe we'd be left with no choice but to be proactive, rather than reactive.
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if something happened and Canada decided to develop nuclear weapons...

Canada??

They don't have a military budget big enough to train with live grenades, let alone develope a nuclear program!!
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You may not be far from your suggestion as the USNavy is deploying a second carrier to the region, when normally there's only one.

As for "what should Israel do", I'd think that if something happened and Canada decided to develop nuclear weapons and intelligence verified it was with the intent to do us harm, I believe we'd be left with no choice but to be proactive, rather than reactive.
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Canada??

They don't have a military budget big enough to train with live grenades, let alone develope a nuclear program!!
Actually, until the early 70's we HAD nukes. We got them for our participation in the Manhattan project. We gave them up voluntarily. It was kept VERY quiet but it was known they had some in Comox. They were part of the old NORAD DEW line defense strategy. AFAIK, Canada is the only country ever to give up nuclear weapons.

We then went on to make a MAJOR contribution to the current destabilized situation by selling Candu reactors to India - for peaceful purposes only of course - they PROMISED not to build bombs, they really did!

That particular bit of imbecility was the REAL trigger to the spread of them. It never ceases to amaze me how truly stupid politicians can be.
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