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Reclaiming your surroundings, this is beautiful...

Just look what happens when you take away billboards and advertising, this short video is amazing.

Brazil did this 5 years ago.
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Actually Brazil didn't do it, it was Sao Paulo

If you don't mind the government being able to dictate your every action, yes it does look impressive. But then many of the buildings and monuments that the Nazis and the Soviets built were also impressive to the eye.

I suspect San Francisco isn't far behind San Paulo's lead.

"São Paulo: A City Without Ads
In 2007, the world's fourth-largest metropolis and Brazil's most important city, São Paulo, became the first city outside of the communist world to put into effect a radical, near-complete ban on outdoor advertising."

São Paulo: A City Without Ads | Adbusters Culturejammer Headquarters

It is interesting they noted that this isn't unusual under Communism.
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It's also good to note that one doesn't need communism for it either.

Oh my god, corporations existed and benefited under the Nazi government in Germany - it must mean that all corporations are bad! The wonders of generalisation
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Just look what happens when you take away billboards and advertising, this short video is amazing.

Brazil did this 5 years ago.
This is something that depends on WHERE it happens IMHO. Back in the 60's Vancouver had neon signage that rivalled Vegas, particularly on "Theatre Row" on Granville street.. The laws changed, practically outlawing it and it virtually disappeared. Now people collect the old signs - some of them are historically protected and new ones are being built.

Times Square, Piccadilly Circus, the Ginza etc. would cease to be what they are without the incredible signage.

Having said that, there is no shortage of places where Brazil's example should be followed - the "Golden Arches" in a shot of the Eiffel tower or Big Ben is something I can do without. Lady Bird's ban on billboards beside the highways improved driving a bunch.
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Actually Brazil didn't do it, it was Sao Paulo

If you don't mind the government being able to dictate your every action, yes it does look impressive. But then many of the buildings and monuments that the Nazis and the Soviets built were also impressive to the eye.

I suspect San Francisco isn't far behind San Paulo's lead.

"São Paulo: A City Without Ads
In 2007, the world's fourth-largest metropolis and Brazil's most important city, São Paulo, became the first city outside of the communist world to put into effect a radical, near-complete ban on outdoor advertising."

São Paulo: A City Without Ads | Adbusters Culturejammer Headquarters

It is interesting they noted that this isn't unusual under Communism.
I guess you're all in favour of graffiti as "freedom of artistic expression" then? Or is money the only determining factor in this equation of essential freedoms?

McCarthy would have been proud - unlimited outdoor advertising as a bulwark against the commies.

It's a good thing that only BAD taste is commonplace - otherwise we wouldn't have these critical philosophical points to discuss.
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No competing brands, no profit motive, and lack of disposable income, just might have something to do with the absence of advertising in communist countries.

Fortunately though, there'll never be a lack of those who determine what is aesthetically pleasing for the unwashed masses.
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Yes, it is. I thought so too.


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No competing brands, no profit motive, and lack of disposable income, just might have something to do with the absence of advertising in communist countries.
And yet it also happened in a non-communist country, as was already pointed out. So it could well be that it is not about the profit motive but pride in one's country, a desire to trade advertising for more commonly agreed upon beauty, the common will of the people (the kind of thing democracy is all about), and/or space-alien socio-visual technology gifted to non-US countries. Speculation is such fun, is it not?

It does seem that speculation is what some posters turn to when they have no facts on which to attack something not done the way their own country does things

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I believe they call them advertising agencies and fashion magazines where you come from
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Of course it happens outside of the communist world. Is this suppose to be a revelation? There's no lack of restrictions on signage right here in the states. I just find it humorous that those who are always speaking out against absolutionism, don't mind it when it suits ya.
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"advertising in communist countries."

Brazil ISNT COMMUNIST. They have elections like we do and a right party and a left party like we do. Maybe the Brazilians actually LIKE having less advertising in their city. What on earth is wrong with legislating that if they have free elections to decide it?

We do the same thing. When was the last time you saw a billboard advertising cigarettes in the USA?
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