Cheap UHT milk/cream & Coffee - Page 5 - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > General Interest Forums > Cruising & Liveaboard Forum > Provisioning
 Not a Member? 


Like Tree2Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #41  
Old 07-07-2012
zeehag's Avatar
snake charmer, cat herder
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: refitting a formosa in exotic tropical locations....
Posts: 1,520
Thanks: 4
Thanked 18 Times in 18 Posts
Rep Power: 6
zeehag is on a distinguished road
Re: Cheap UHT milk/cream & Coffee

i found the outdated stuff isnt bad-is just outdated--still lasts 5 days in tropix sans fridge--not like real milk products without weird additives or weird processing-those only last a short time--half and half here only lasts 2 days as opposed to 5 in san diego. no --i still have no fridge..

what is sterile stuff gonna do--defy laws of science and grow bugs?? gawd knows it doesnt sour.....
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

formosa 41 and ericson 35mII
cruising tropical mexico at present, working my way southward



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #42  
Old 07-07-2012
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: San Francisco Bay area
Posts: 1,946
Thanks: 0
Thanked 22 Times in 22 Posts
Rep Power: 4
MarkSF is on a distinguished road
Re: Cheap UHT milk/cream & Coffee

"Not identical but similar and arguably better from some nutritional points of view.
Cow's milk? Well, most mammals lose the ability to truly digest it before one year of age. So you're drinking something your body is not designed to drink.
As to being water...mammary glands evolved from sweat glands, so yes, you are basically drinking cow sweat when you drink cow milk. Um um, yummy. And of course, you're depriving a calf of sustenance. And, cows have been so heavily bred over the years that if they're not milked regularly, they're in great pain from the "enhanced" udders."

I would argue the reverse. Humans have been drinking cow's milk for about 12,000 years, and the consumption of it perfectly tracks the advent of human civilisation (the transition from nomadic lifestyle to a society which remains in one place permanently, requires agriculture including a dependence on cattle)

Genetically, we are in the process of adapting to cow's milk. Most Westerners are genetically adapted (they have the gene for the production of an enzyme to digest lactose) and can digest it very well with no ill effects, while a few cannot.

Unfermented soy products like soy milk were invented in the last 50 years by US agribusiness. The human body has never seen anything like them, and they are toxic in numerous ways.

Interestingly, Asians, who have used soy for thousands of years, learned that it must be fermented to make it safe to eat. (ie, Tofu)

Here is an article discussing some of the ill effects of soy milk. Think of it as drinking a chemical byproduct of GM soy production.

The Truth About Unfermented Soy and Its Harmful Effects
__________________
1984 Bristol 31.1
Alameda, California, USA

Last edited by MarkSF; 07-07-2012 at 12:22 PM.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #43  
Old 07-07-2012
zeehag's Avatar
snake charmer, cat herder
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: refitting a formosa in exotic tropical locations....
Posts: 1,520
Thanks: 4
Thanked 18 Times in 18 Posts
Rep Power: 6
zeehag is on a distinguished road
Re: Cheap UHT milk/cream & Coffee

cow mi,k and cream have been in use for centuries as a gastric medicine--fixes heartburn(cream, half and half? is part of a special diet for ulcer patients--still is as there hasnt been a replacement for it yet. sippy diet is the recuperation from ulcers diet.... goes GREAT in coffee as a buffer, using the previous history.....

yes, some people are sensitive to lactose--many are not ..
some people enjoy the flavor of cow milk products--some do not like that flavor.

soy milk tastes evil. yukk and donot place in any proximity to my mocha...f gods wanted us to drink soy milk, they woulda made it come from cows.

(dontcha love the attitude!!!!???)

do we have an eating popcorn icon>?????
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

formosa 41 and ericson 35mII
cruising tropical mexico at present, working my way southward



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #44  
Old 07-07-2012
Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 43
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
windnrock is on a distinguished road
Re: Cheap UHT milk/cream & Coffee

Expiration is not always about the product going bad from bacteria. Often it is when the product itself starts breaking down. This could be benign and simply make the stuff taste bad or not function, like yeast.
I do love sweetened condensed milk in really strong coffee though! Plant juice just doesn't cut it, be it soy, coconut or whatever. As an omnivore I feel compelled to eat meat, dairy, grain, vegetables with no bias. As a sailor I don't complain about its condition, at least not loud enough for the cook to hear!
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #45  
Old 07-07-2012
zeehag's Avatar
snake charmer, cat herder
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: refitting a formosa in exotic tropical locations....
Posts: 1,520
Thanks: 4
Thanked 18 Times in 18 Posts
Rep Power: 6
zeehag is on a distinguished road
Re: Cheap UHT milk/cream & Coffee

lolif it curdles i have powdered whole milk(ugh) and in port near a supermarket i use half and half--yummmm---and between i use guar gum with white almost liquid and some other chemicals --they call it media crema but it is not a substitute for half and half by any means.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

formosa 41 and ericson 35mII
cruising tropical mexico at present, working my way southward



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #46  
Old 07-07-2012
hellosailor's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 10,037
Thanks: 0
Thanked 50 Times in 49 Posts
Rep Power: 10
hellosailor has a spectacular aura about hellosailor has a spectacular aura about
Re: Cheap UHT milk/cream & Coffee

"As an omnivore I feel compelled to eat meat, dairy, grain, vegetables with no bias."
As an omnivore, you were designed and programmed to consume dairy only until you were weaned, and then you lose most of the ability to digest it. As well as the ability to procure it, in the natural environment.
It wasn't until the artificial environment of shpeherds and all came around that dairy became a food group again, so it certainly isn't in your programming genetically.

As for why some tribes think termites are yummy while most of us just abhor bugs...except maybe crabs and lobsters....no accounting for taste, is there?
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ice Cream Recipe twagg7 Provisioning 6 11-04-2004 12:19 PM
Ice cream Harriet Provisioning 1 07-25-2002 08:02 PM
Soy Milk? BillHuff General Discussion (sailing related) 4 09-22-2001 08:03 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:06 AM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012