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Re: AC 34 - What If?

I like Omatako's idea. 45's with foils. I just can't get over how tall these boats are. They just don't seem to resemble even slightly many of the boats that Joe Budweiser owns at his harbor in, say, Monterey, Ca.

I guess they shouldn't. They're kind of the Le Mans cars of the water. But there should at least be some likeness in size to the most common boats out there, I'd think.

As far as monos vs. cats, to me they are quite different beasts, but I like them both. In al reality, though, noone can expect to go back to monos, I don't think.

And now, to tab on over to the WMRT and see what's up withthat series, if anything.
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Re: AC 34 - What If?

OTUSA will race another day. They looked the best I've seen them so far. On the upwind leg,It looked like Oracle was choosing a lower point of sail to gain a couple knots in speed. This kept them up on their foils more than Emirates and helped them keep their speed up through the tacks. If sailing off the wind a bit was the plan, it worked. But the wind was strong again and that seems to be what Oracle likes best.

OTOH, that 30-second window average I have no idea why they created a rule where an average wind speed over any 30-second period that exceeds 20K can cause the clock to reset to 15:00 and begin the countdown all over again. Then you have to wait for another 15 minute period to pass hoping the wind speed won't max during any other 30-second period. Couldn't they have set it for a minute or two?

And while they were waiting for that average to stay below the max, the average wind speed, over the entire time they were waiting, was a little over 16K. Why set yourself up for so many cancelled races?
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Re: AC 34 - What If?

Oracle looked really good today, tacking faster than ETNZ.
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AC 34 - What the?

This is really turning out like no one expected. ETNZ is in the lead and looking at an easy win... and then time expires and the race is cancelled. For once the winds didn't show up. But we got to see the code zero!

Next race, OTUSA pulls ahead and takes the win. ET 8, OT 3. And tomorrow NZ tries once again to get that one last win.

Sailing even the sailing world didn't expect. And I'm kinda liking those AC72s now.
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Its a Kiwi speaking--How many more times must ETNZ be denied the final race win through dumb rules-I must admit they did not sail to their usual faultless performance in todays second race but tomorrow is another day.-Go ETNZ
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Re: AC 34 - What The...?

Yeah, this is kinda frustrating, but fun too. All of the cancelled races, most by too much wind, but today's first race by too little. Or maybe too much dallying for dominance by the competitors.

It's still fun.

Maybe this just shows how much these best-of-the-best have to learn about these Formula One Race machines. And we got to see the CODE ZEROS deployed!

The Kiwis (at least on the Emirates boat) came into this race the best prepared and the best racers. The Kiwis and Aussies on Oracle seem to be using the actual Cup Matches as a learning platform. Jeez, I thought they had that down pat by now.

But I'm really having fun.
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Re: AC 34 - What If?

Heartbreaking to see the time run out at such a late juncture, odd that the crew seemed to think they had more time.

The 'cross' was incredible, I don't think there's any doubt that Oracle had to 'duck', I can't imagine driving those boats at those closing speeds (even on a light air day... 'Jeez, Gary, the boats are so slow today' - and they're still doing 20 knots .)

Full credit to Oracle today in the rerun.. they seemed to have higher boat speeds generally, and sailed a smart race. Still say it's a shame there's only a couple of Americans on the "US" boat.
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only one american on board today
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Re: AC 34 - What If?

40 minute races, gotta fit into the 1 hour TV time slot and allow enough time for commercials I guess. Yet another dumb AC moment. I really, really, really hope that whoever gets it next time makes a better job of it all. The boats are spectacular and had an opportunity to put on an amazing show for sailing and non-sailing fans alike. From what I can tell, they've mostly managed to alienate both sides at once which is perhaps the most impressive thing about it all.

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I have to admit, I had lost all interest in the AC then, a slow day at work I youtube the race, now, I don't know what to say other than amazing. the speed, the grace........pretty nice

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