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Re: AC 34 - What If?

Oh - and anyone that wants the AC to go back to monos is a complete nutbird. Watch some of this "nail biting" racing from the Rolex Maxi:

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The commentator actually uses the term "nail biting"! Seriously? These guys are doing 7-8 knots in that shot!

Compare that with 40 knots on these AC72s - then appreciate the technology making yacht racing more interesting than paint drying.
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So then what team would you bet (honestly) the house on if they switched boats?
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Re: AC 34 - What If?

I do think the kiwis have the superior boat, although not by a lot. They aren't any faster up wind, but they kill Oracle in the tacks. Part of that may be the extra buoyancy in ETNZ's hulls, and the self tacking jib, but I think you also have to give the crew credit too. You don't see nearly the same number of mistakes on ETNZ as you do on OR. Could the Oracle crew do better on the ETNZ boat? perhaps. But who is to say that the ETNZ crew couldn't get more out of the Oracle boat?
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Re: AC 34 - What If?

Also think ETNZ knows they are better upwind and so they are less pressed so are less likely to make mistakes.

The crews have both been alluding to ETNZ being better upwind however with the racing still going on I think they are going to down play the issue at least until it is over then we will likely get a better idea of what they thought.
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They're not far from the same at all. I agree with Minne's breakdown of the upwind/downwind advantages, but they are minimal (hence the sub-minute splits at the finishes).

It's the sailing and strategy that's making the critical difference - not the boats. OR just can't sail as well as NZ. How do you blow a 40 second lead DOWNWIND on the first leg? By being OR.
You do it by being slower upwind. Foiling tack debacle aside, Oracle lost that race upwind.
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Oh - and anyone that wants the AC to go back to monos is a complete nutbird.
Agreed. This is some of the coolest stuff I have seen in sailboat racing ever. And, despite the domination by ETNZ, these have been some great races. Trading leads upwind in race 6? That was pretty awesome.
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Re: AC 34 - What If?

I am hooked. I've only seen re-plays so far but I'll be up at 4am Sunday morning to see the live feed. (hope it's not restricted)
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I am hooked. I've only seen re-plays so far but I'll be up at 4am Sunday morning to see the live feed. (hope it's not restricted)
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Re: AC 34 - What If?

Who said OTUSA was slower upwind?
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Re: AC 34 - What If?

They're not. Their upwind boat handling was hurting them, and they were doing better at that today. The changes they made to the boat seem to have helped them a bit too. Still, I think ETNZ lost the race today more than Oracle won it! Whatever happened to cause the near capsize took them out of the race. I am sure they were just happy to finish in one piece!
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