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Re: Do you believe in miracles???

Next time the course should be: a beat out to the Light Bucket - run to Alcatraz - reach to the finish off of The Embarcadero (and no pu$$y wind limits). The AC72s were pretty cool, but let's see some boats that can take real SF Bay conditions, and races that aren't won or lost on a single error.
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Well, Uncle Larry does have his own Hawaiian island...
Actually, not a bad idea. The original race was around an island.
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Oracle 10 wins, 7 of those in a row. Kiwis 8 wins.

After NZ took the start and was ahead through the 2nd gate I thought it was over. In practically every other race, NZ either stayed even or gained on the 3rd leg. And then about 1/3 the way through, Oracle passes them and soon leaves them in their dust.

You have to be wondering what was going through the crew's mind on ETNZ when that happened.
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SF is definitely not a given...
It wasn't for this cup either. There was much hand wringing over where Ellison would defend. And LE certainly gains nothing by tipping his hand early. But I'd say that after this amazing event, San Francisco has a pretty good chance of being the next locale.
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Ah yes of course, I'm just jealous.

All I'm saying is that it is hardly an "American Sailing Lesson" when the sailors are from everywhere BUT the USA! Even the American tactician was punted in favour of a Brit!

Don't worry, Americans still reign supreme in their ability to blow obscene amounts of money on a sport the American public doesn't give a crap about!
This from someone from a nation that wouldn't (or couldn't) field a challenge. Just another hater with Small Country Syndrome.

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This from someone from a nation that wouldn't (or couldn't) field a challenge. Just another hater with Small Country Syndrome.
You are right in that Canada hasn't even tried field a challenger since..the '80s? (I believe we had 2 that time) I don't really care that we don't try to participate because I recognize that Canadians just aren't interested in yacht racing. At the same time, of course I am routing for the small country that IS passionate about sailing, and is the underdog from the beginning because they don't have the deep pockets. It has nothing to do with being a hater, or being envious of the USA. (I wouldn't trade countries for anything!)

I just don't think that it is appropriate to try to attach national pride to a syndicate that has very little American content in their program. Team Oracle is not a shining example of US sailing prowess, it is just a demonstration of US wealth. If anything they should be ashamed that they turned their backs on so Many talented American sailors, builders engineers etc. But they won the cup with an American flag on the boat, and that's all that matters, right?

If you want to make it a truly nation vs nation competition then there has to be citizenship requirements. Maybe even require that the boats be built in their home country.

Right now it is syndicate vs syndicate, and the flag they sail under is irrelevant.
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It wasn't for this cup either. There was much hand wringing over where Ellison would defend. And LE certainly gains nothing by tipping his hand early. But I'd say that after this amazing event, San Francisco has a pretty good chance of being the next locale.
Since I started following the AC back in the 70's, I always felt the unpredictable winds were the downfall. I remember some races where it looked like they weren't even moving. That was bad back then but today, when everyone expects everything yesterday, it would kill any possibility of a sizable fan following.

And where on the shores of this country can you get better wind conditions than we saw in this last Cup? If they don't pick SF, wherever they do pick had better have consistent and good winds or they could lose a lot of the fans they just gained. But first, they have to figure out how to keep these fans during the long wait until the series begins again.
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American sailing lesson? You do realize there is only one American on the boat right?
Well they still had to call it Team USA cuz Team " Whatever We Happen To Have on Board At The Time" was too long
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Re: Do you believe in miracles???

Amazing On all fronts! From the materials the boats and sails are made of, to the engineering, designers and engineers who created these machines, to the technology used to televise it, to the venue, to the capabilities of the crews, to the capabilities of the "boats", to the vision of the winning owner, to the unbelievable outcome!!! WOW! WOW! WOW!

When can I buy a mast with a hinge to make it possible for my wing sail to lay flat, out of the wind when my boat is on its mooring? The future of sailing has changed!! What we all witnessed this past couple of weeks was "impossible" within recent memory. I have to wonder what the "magicians" are working on today!

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Well they still had to call it Team USA cuz Team " Whatever We Happen To Have on Board At The Time" was too long
They say a picture is worth 1000 words..

...and, especially for those of us who remember 1983, this would have to be the best summary of the AC saga I've seen to date:



(Cartoonist: Mark Knight for the Herald Sun)

Seems like there's more than one way to win the Cup for Auld Oz.
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