Wild race on Saturday during November storm - Page 2 - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > Out There > Racing
 Not a Member? 


Like Tree8Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #11  
Old 11-07-2013
Faster's Avatar
Just another Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: New Westminster, BC
Posts: 15,364
Thanks: 88
Thanked 244 Times in 235 Posts
Rep Power: 10
Faster has a spectacular aura about Faster has a spectacular aura about Faster has a spectacular aura about
Re: Wild race on Saturday during November storm

As in the America's Cup and one design, where boats might have some pretty defined limitations, it would seem to be the committee's mandate to make the call.

Most fleet/handicap racing leave it to the skipper. A couple of years back the Southern Straits race committee started a race in the face of a storm warning.. this is a long standing event with a good percentage of 'gear busters' over the years.. everyone knew the predictions and forecasts.. Some chose to start, others did not. As it happened conditions were worse than forecast, and at the end of day one, in view of several dismastings, mass retirements, and a dangerous swamping with 2 MOBs (thankfully recovered) the committee abandoned the race for the first time in the event's history..

At that point pretty well everyone had withdrawn except for a couple of boats that, IIRC, were 'training' for Vic Maui and Sydney Hobart.
__________________
Ron

1984 Fast/Nicholson 345 "FastForward"

".. there is much you could do at sea with common sense.. and very little you could do without it.."
Capt G E Ericson (from "The Cruel Sea" by Nicholas Monsarrat)
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #12  
Old 11-07-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 360
Thanks: 0
Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts
Rep Power: 6
ScottUK is on a distinguished road
Re: Wild race on Saturday during November storm

Cheers for fixing my quote Faster - I don't seem to be able to use all the facilities available on the forum due to my computer.

I think we are on the same page regarding query on responsibility.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #13  
Old 11-07-2013
SHNOOL's Avatar
Legend in my own mind.
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: East Stroudsburg, PA
Posts: 1,179
Thanks: 8
Thanked 48 Times in 44 Posts
Rep Power: 8
SHNOOL is on a distinguished road
Re: Wild race on Saturday during November storm

Sweet race... I'd be TOTALLY onboard with sailing in it! When the vid started I was like OK why wasn't anyone forward putting up a painter! Later in the vid with you guys surfing up a storm with barely a rag for a sail... I was like YEEEEEEAAAAAH, duly noted, no need for a jib!

Yep, responsibility is up to the skipper for sure, but I didn't see anything unsafe there. You guys rock!
__________________
Hull #68 S2 7.9 on our little landlocked puddle, Lake Wallenpaupack, PA, it's cheap, trailerable, and paid for.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #14  
Old 11-07-2013
Alex W's Avatar
no longer reading SailNet
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 2,309
Thanks: 2
Thanked 139 Times in 133 Posts
Rep Power: 3
Alex W is on a distinguished road
Re: Wild race on Saturday during November storm

The race that was cancelled in Seattle was the last race for Duck Dodge. This is a non-handicapped mostly-fun beer can race where a big highlight is the raft up and sharing of drinks at the end. It was the right thing to cancel it when there were 50 knot gusts 3 hours before the race given the nature of this race and the boats involved.

They still had the after-party!
joyinPNW likes this.
__________________
I'm no longer participating on SailNet.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #15  
Old 11-07-2013
Faster's Avatar
Just another Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: New Westminster, BC
Posts: 15,364
Thanks: 88
Thanked 244 Times in 235 Posts
Rep Power: 10
Faster has a spectacular aura about Faster has a spectacular aura about Faster has a spectacular aura about
Re: Wild race on Saturday during November storm

Quote:
Originally Posted by SHNOOL View Post
Sweet race... I'd be TOTALLY onboard with sailing in it! When the vid started I was like OK why wasn't anyone forward putting up a painter! Later in the vid with you guys surfing up a storm with barely a rag for a sail... I was like YEEEEEEAAAAAH, duly noted, no need for a jib!

Yep, responsibility is up to the skipper for sure, but I didn't see anything unsafe there. You guys rock!
Close on the heels of the Straits race I referred to above, a Utube video was posted by a participating J109. It was a fascinating thing to watch. At first, kite up, boat surfing, smiles and high fives all around, maybe 20-22 knots of breeze and boat speed in the teens.. later, wind over 30 knots, mainsail only, a less exuberant crew.. later still, 50 knots plus, everyone looking pretty grim, hanging on as they fought to get into shelter at Nanaimo.. the transition from YEE HAW to 'oh Sh*t' to 'gemmeouttahere' was very apparent....
joyinPNW likes this.
__________________
Ron

1984 Fast/Nicholson 345 "FastForward"

".. there is much you could do at sea with common sense.. and very little you could do without it.."
Capt G E Ericson (from "The Cruel Sea" by Nicholas Monsarrat)
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #16  
Old 11-08-2013
joyinPNW's Avatar
landofrainandgray
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Tacoma
Posts: 67
Thanks: 1
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 2
joyinPNW is on a distinguished road
Re: Wild race on Saturday during November storm

It was a close call whether to go or not-the waters in this location are *relatively* protected and we've done so much work on the boat in the last year replacing halyards, new traveler, blocks, and adjustable backstay that it gave us a good op to try out our new systems.

Ultimately, it should be the skipper's call and the most disconcerting thing in those conditions is the thought of anyone going overboard. Water temp is around 50 degrees so you don't have much time to figure it out. We finally decided conditions had deteriorated enough that we dropped the sails and motored back. It's a judgment call, I suppose, but we were happy with the lessons and experiences we gained.
__________________
Joy
Washington State
Beneteau 35s5
Folie a Deux
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Anyone up for sailing in the tropical storm this Saturday Bene505 General Discussion (sailing related) 55 09-26-2009 01:11 AM
First Race on Saturday....Help! DrB Racing 11 05-22-2008 11:07 AM
My race Saturday OPTIMANIA General Discussion (sailing related) 3 11-21-2007 05:39 PM
Saturday November 11, 2006 (The New Zealand Herald) NewsReader News Feeds 0 11-10-2006 01:15 PM
Saturday November 4, 2006 (The New Zealand Herald) NewsReader News Feeds 0 11-03-2006 01:15 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:52 AM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.