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Choreography To Walk the Jib around the Rigging

Can someone describe in detail the choreography used to walk a jib around the rigging in light air? (Please don't tell me about backwinding the jib. I know how to do that. I want to know the alternative.) Do you grab the leech of the sail or the jibsheet? Which hand do you use? Please describe each step in detail. Thanks!
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Re: Choreography To Walk the Jib around the Rigging

Ahhh a dance of many variations! and I think different on every boat. I just grab the clew and walk it forward... but how, exaclty, I dunno.

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Re: Choreography To Walk the Jib around the Rigging

Grap the middle of the foot, run it forward until the clew crosses the mast, then release.
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Re: Choreography To Walk the Jib around the Rigging

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Grap the middle of the foot, run it forward until the clew crosses the mast, then release.
Thanks SF! That sounds logical. So, if the boat is on port tack, and tacking over to starboard, you would be facing forward, and then grip the middle of the foot of the jib with your right hand, and flip it around the rigging to the port side, correct? (I want to get it as clear as I can, because sometimes the fine points matter.)

I've been looking for a video showing how the best racing crews handle the jib in a light air tack, but haven't found one yet.
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Re: Choreography To Walk the Jib around the Rigging

You want to pull the foot forward, up towards the bow, until the wind has taken the clew to the new leeward side of the mast, then release the foot and trim.
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Re: Choreography To Walk the Jib around the Rigging

If the air is that light you'd have a number 1 up and the crew if any would be on the leeward side?

So the forwardmost person would grab the lazy sheet in front of them working their way to the clew as you make your turn then walking ( or rolling) it over in front of the mast making sure it doesn't get hung up on a forward shroud on the port (new) side before releasing. Then they assume their new rail position.
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Re: Choreography To Walk the Jib around the Rigging

You don't need to go forward. If on stbd tacking to port:

Stand next to the mast on the stbd side between the mast and the lower shrouds.
Grab one shroud to stbd with you're right hand and reach out/down to port with your left.
As the sail is released, sweep the sail across the rigging with your left hand, kick the clew around if it gets hung up.

Going forward on anything smaller than a 40 footer is slow.
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Re: Choreography To Walk the Jib around the Rigging

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Going forward on anything smaller than a 40 footer is slow.
In asking this question, my interest is mostly in relation to boats in the 40 foot size range. IMO, backwinding the big genoa in light air doesn't work very well for a variety of reasons, especially on a big boat, and I vaguely remember seeing some skilled crews helping the sail around, but can't remember exactly how they did it.
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Re: Choreography To Walk the Jib around the Rigging

I hate backwinding a jib. It's a great way to punch a hole in the sail or beat up the leach. Only reason to do that is on a catamaran that doesn't tack well at all, and those usually don't have overlapping headsails.
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Re: Choreography To Walk the Jib around the Rigging

Zz4gta's description sounds a lot like how I do it. "Walking " it around is slow and cumbersome. I stand at the mast, and lean towards the sail, arm outstretched waiting for the sail to backwind. As soon as the sail hits my arm I use my whole arm and shoulder to fling the sail around the mast. I then grab the lazy sheet and give it a tug to make sure it doesn't foul. If it is really light I might step to the low side and induce heel and help the sail clear the shrouds on the new tack. I am then in perfect position to skirt the sail. After I skirt I may move quickly up to the high side to give the sail a little bit of a pump. The result is a form of roll tacking with an economy of movement that is important in light air.
As for back winding the sail, there is nothing wrong with it as such, in fact it is a critical component of a good tack. Spreader damage happens when the release is late and the sail is allowed to plaster itself on the rig before releasing. Early releases that allow the sail to flog are very slow, and they don't do the sail any favors either.
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