Crash mat? - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > Out There > Racing
 Not a Member? 


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 02-19-2007
paulk's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: CT/ Long Island Sound
Posts: 2,533
Thanks: 4
Thanked 20 Times in 19 Posts
Rep Power: 15
paulk is on a distinguished road
Crash mat?

We were racing at CORK (Kingston, Ontario) when a p/s collision between Solings resulted in one of them sinking. Other racers at our club have been damaged during races where contact between boats occurred. (One boat was hit by a trawler in the fog.) Sailing magazines often show pictures of the gaping holes that the pointy ends of our craft are capable of making. Do any of you guys carry a crash mat or cloth for covering over a holed hull so you can stay afloat long enogh to get to safety? I am thinking of having our sailmaker do one up, and am wondering what shape might be the easiest to deploy and the most effective, should the need arise.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #2  
Old 02-19-2007
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Beacon, New York
Posts: 652
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 8
Tartan34C will become famous soon enough
An equilateral triangle is the best shape and if you need one the jig is probably up.
Good luck and all the best,
Robert Gainer
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #3  
Old 02-19-2007
sailingdog's Avatar
Telstar 28
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New England
Posts: 43,291
Thanks: 0
Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts
Rep Power: 13
sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice
The key thing is that once you have it...that you practice deploying it in various positions, otherwise, don't bother carrying it...

I don't carry one, and generally don't see the need for one, as my boat is a trimaran, and unless I manage to hole all three hulls, I'm in no danger of sinking..
__________________
Sailingdog

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Telstar 28
New England

You know what the first rule of sailing is? ...Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take
a boat to the sea you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of the worlds. Love keeps
her going when she oughta fall down, tells you she's hurting 'fore she keens. Makes her a home.

—Cpt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity (edited)

If you're new to the Sailnet Forums... please read this
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
.

Still—DON'T READ THAT POST AGAIN.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #4  
Old 02-19-2007
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Beacon, New York
Posts: 652
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 8
Tartan34C will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by sailingdog
I don't carry one, and generally don't see the need for one, as my boat is a trimaran, and unless I manage to hole all three hulls, I'm in no danger of sinking..
Not real familiar with multihulls. What happens if you hole one of the outerhulls? Don’t you run the risk of capsizing?
All the best,
Robert Gainer
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #5  
Old 02-19-2007
sailingdog's Avatar
Telstar 28
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New England
Posts: 43,291
Thanks: 0
Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts
Rep Power: 13
sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice
Good question... not particularly... as each of the outer amas is designed to have three compartments... and unless I manage to hole the first two compartments on the ama, I can still sail it relatively safely.
__________________
Sailingdog

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Telstar 28
New England

You know what the first rule of sailing is? ...Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take
a boat to the sea you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of the worlds. Love keeps
her going when she oughta fall down, tells you she's hurting 'fore she keens. Makes her a home.

—Cpt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity (edited)

If you're new to the Sailnet Forums... please read this
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
.

Still—DON'T READ THAT POST AGAIN.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #6  
Old 02-23-2007
hellosailor's Avatar
Plausible Deniability
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 10,442
Thanks: 1
Thanked 76 Times in 74 Posts
Rep Power: 10
hellosailor has a spectacular aura about hellosailor has a spectacular aura about
Paul, the only time I've been rammed has been well above the water line. Unless you are sheared into by a plumb bow, or run into debris, that's most liekly how you would be hit. So the first move is to heel the boat the other way, try to get the hole above waterline so you can inspect it. After that, you rig a crash mat (collison blanket) as best you can, if you need it.

If you have old sails, doubling them over and having a sailmaker put a heavy cringle in each corner is one way to make them. Better if you take a cockpit cushion (closed cell foam covered in vinyl) or settee cushion (same kind) and have the cringles put in, or one of the commercial mat-like fenders that you can buy with cringles already in them. A couple of extra cringles gives you more option in how to apply it. Remember the water will be trying to pull the whole thing off and apart if you are making way...so more and beefier cringles are probably a good idea.

A couple of cans of urethane foam probably could also be used as a sealant, i.e. applied (from inside, to the outside) around the hole. It seals up and bonds nicely, even in water. Mess to get it off, but I'd rather seal the hole first.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #7  
Old 02-23-2007
sailingdog's Avatar
Telstar 28
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New England
Posts: 43,291
Thanks: 0
Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts
Rep Power: 13
sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice
Hellosailor-

You're assuming that they'll be able to access the area holed from the interior of the boat, which is often not the case with modern boats, that have built-in hull liners, and very little access to the actual interior of the hull.
__________________
Sailingdog

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Telstar 28
New England

You know what the first rule of sailing is? ...Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take
a boat to the sea you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of the worlds. Love keeps
her going when she oughta fall down, tells you she's hurting 'fore she keens. Makes her a home.

—Cpt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity (edited)

If you're new to the Sailnet Forums... please read this
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
.

Still—DON'T READ THAT POST AGAIN.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #8  
Old 02-23-2007
hellosailor's Avatar
Plausible Deniability
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 10,442
Thanks: 1
Thanked 76 Times in 74 Posts
Rep Power: 10
hellosailor has a spectacular aura about hellosailor has a spectacular aura about
SD-
Hull liners are a whole other problem. Easily fixed by a roll of primer cord, no need for that dangerous fire axe.

Actually...if I had to worry about a hull liner I'd say for sure to use urethane foam. Drill a 3/8" hole in the liner, shoot in a couple of cans of foam, form a nice cork right in place without having to chew away the hull liner.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #9  
Old 02-25-2007
paulk's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: CT/ Long Island Sound
Posts: 2,533
Thanks: 4
Thanked 20 Times in 19 Posts
Rep Power: 15
paulk is on a distinguished road
Thanks for all the input. Am thinking of getting our sailmaker to make up a hefty one - perhaps from an old dacron main. It occurs to me that with the triangular shape suggested by Rob G, we could also use it (or a section of it) as a parbuckle for bringing MOB back aboard.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Crash kills boy on way to open presents - Bradenton Herald NewsReader News Feeds 0 12-26-2006 03:15 AM
Epoxy Resin and Mat Fiberglass morganbill Gear & Maintenance 6 12-22-2006 06:16 PM
Pilot dies in crash of small plane in Gladwin County lake - WLNS NewsReader News Feeds 0 11-16-2006 02:16 AM
Nude driver arrested in crash that kills New York pedestrian (Pravda) NewsReader News Feeds 0 10-20-2006 03:15 AM
Crash Test Dummies Wins Rolex Cup Regatta SailNet Racing Articles 0 04-23-2000 08:00 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:24 AM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.