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It most certainly was a true AC regatta... Go to the AC website and look at the history of the AC and you will see that the LV Cup format is a new race format to improve the competitiveness of the challenger.

The "Deed of Gift" is the original governing document of the America's Cup. To challenge under the rules of the Deed of Gift is an AC Regatta in the truest sense of the sport (no LV Cup series).
Actually, I agree with KH and in fact made that point in an earlier post were I stated that the NYYC actually bastardized the AC with their 12 meter format. So yes, I stand corrected.

The point I was trying to make was that now we expect that all parties will go back to NYYC format of agreeing on parameters of the vessels for the next challenge and will likely include a regatta to determine the challenger and a regatta to determine the defender". This should put a greater emphasis on sailing accument while still putting a premium on design (however, within limits). SO STOP WHINNING!!!!!!!!

There was an article the RI govenor sent Ellison a letter requesting that they consider returning the AC to Newport. Lord knows, the RI economy could sure use it.
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... all parties will go back to NYYC format of agreeing on parameters of the vessels for the next challenge and will likely include ... a regatta to determine the defender". ...
Can you explain this idea a little bit better?

The defender is the NYYC, so that regatta to determine the defender would be what? I mean what would be the contenders?

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Can you explain this idea a little bit better?

The defender is the NYYC, so that regatta to determine the defender would be what? I mean what would be the contenders?

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I'm not sure exactly when it started, but at least in the last few AC regatta's hosted by the NYYC. The NYYC held a regatta to pick the defender of the cup. There were usually a few boats that vied for this honor. Most if not all the boat in the defender regatta were sponsored by individuals or organizations that were not affiliated with the NYYC. (I don't know if they had to become members of NYYC or not, but I don't think so.) I think the defender regatta was open to all boats that qualified as "US" boats under the rules in place at the time.

A similar regatta was held for all the non-US boats challenging for the Cup. I believe the first challenger's regatta in this series was well before Luis Vitton began sponsoring the challenger's regatta.

This is how the NYYC kept the cup for so many years. It was not necessarily a NYYC funded defender that would defend the cup. In effect the NYYC was putting up the best US boat and using it to defend the NYYC's right to the cup.

I think, under the deed of gift if the challenger does not agree to the format established, the challenger of record can do what Ellison did and challenge to a no holds barred race to control the cup.

If I screwed up any of this explanation, I'm sure someone will be more than happy to tell us I scewed something up.

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It is not official but I have heard that the next cup will be raced on big cats (77ft) with a fixed wing.

I don't mind the cats, but I am affraid that the budget to build and race those machines would be so big that most of the teams would have no means to compete.

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