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Incredible, it seems that bold play from Groupama has been a bright strategical move. They are recovering all the time and they are about 2K faster than everybody. If they can maintain that in 12 hours they will be leading. That would be fabulous.
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It's more understandable for Sanya since she's a boat from the last race (Ericsson 4, I think?). But these others are all new, I'm pretty sure.

I am amazed with Groupama. I thought they were out for sure. And Telefonica is absolutely rock solid. Just shows how good all these guys are. If their boats would just stay together, this would be an incredible race.


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Outstanding, Incredible, amazing, all adjectives are not enough to describe the boldness of Cammas move. He have tried it on the first leg but it did not went well.

Here we have Cammas at his best. This guy was needed in this race.

In my opinion the most talented and polyvalent skipper in the world, the only guy that I know off that can race solo on an Open 60 and win, race solo on a big trimaran and win, lead a team on a record attempt around the world and have it, that can match race at the highest level and win. There are some, not many that can do each of the races and win, but he is the only one that can win them all (and has won them all) and he his among the youngest skippers racing.

The only thing that he had not won yet is a leg of the Volvo, well it seems that he is in a good position to do that, on his first Volvo Ocean race.

I like that guy

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It will be interesting to see where this shakes out after the stealth zone. Another take on it here:

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It will be interesting to see where this shakes out after the stealth zone. Another take on it here:

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They do like their gambling. But they made out far better than I thought they would. Obviously a fast boat and very good crew/skipper, GPMA.


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yes, I have said already that, I mean that this guys were needed on this race of cold fish with very conservative thought

And here they go again choosing another course different from all other boats. They could just manage that 70nm difference and do the same as the others, it would be a more careful play, but no, they like to play big.

At least, contrary to the huge move on the last change of course, I understand why they are doing it and I would do the same. It looks good to me:

They would be out of the doldrums first and with a stronger wind. The question is why are not the others doing the same? Heard mentality and lack of trust on those crazy rookies?
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He certainly has added another dimension to the race, and in a field of only 6 boats, makes it much more worth following. Is there any official pool on the finish order coming out of the stealth zone?
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yes, I have said already that, I mean that this guys were needed on this race of cold fish with very conservative thought

And here they go again choosing another course different from all other boats. They could just manage that 70nm difference and do the same as the others, it would be a more careful play, but no, they like to play big.

At least, contrary to the huge move on the last change of course, I understand why they are doing it and I would do the same. It looks good to me:

They would be out of the doldrums first and with a stronger wind. The question is why are not the others doing the same? Heard mentality and lack of trust on those crazy rookies?
I have to say, I'm learning a hell of a lot with this race - especially from GPMA pulled off. I've only done 2 ocean races as crew thus far (and plan to do many more) and we have really done a poor job of weather planning. Granted they were relatively short races, but I'm excited to learn more about how to be more effective at finding wind, rather than sticking to the rhumb line and hoping - or making wild guesses on in-shore or off-shore possibilities.


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I have to say, I'm learning a hell of a lot with this race - especially from GPMA pulled off. I've only done 2 ocean races as crew thus far (and plan to do many more) and we have really done a poor job of weather planning. Granted they were relatively short races, but I'm excited to learn more about how to be more effective at finding wind, rather than sticking to the rhumb line and hoping - or making wild guesses on in-shore or off-shore possibilities.
Two more races than me, except if we count a real amateur one with about 40 boats, but on that one I got 2th, behind a First 44.7 (no ratings).

I have learned a lot following French Transats. On those you don't have 6 boats but ten times more and many great skippers.

It is needed balls to do what Groupama is doing. He is losing all the advantage going with a worse angle and slower than the others on the assumption that in about 15 hours it will be in a much better position and he will go faster.

They could just have maintain the lead and cover the moves of the adversaries but I guess that would not have enough flair They don't only want to win they want to win with style
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He certainly has added another dimension to the race, and in a field of only 6 boats, makes it much more worth following. Is there any official pool on the finish order coming out of the stealth zone?
Here they explain:



I guess they will join both times ( or points 80% 20%?), the one to the Port and the other from the pace where the cargo is going to leave them to Abu Dhabi.

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