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Brilliant strategic move!!!! Groupama has managed to pull it off

They are 1th and are going to win a lot of miles on the next days. Big gamble, big win!!! Not bad for a Rockie

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and on a record time Abu Dhabi is sailing again, going to the place it lost the mast to start racing again. Good luck to them, they deserve it!

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Wow it looks like Groupama is litteraly hugging the coast. Their route mirrors the coastline.
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Groupama is chattering now about having to make another move soon, appears the wind is dying out along the coast, though they appear to be doing well right now.
For me I'm wondering what happened to Camper. I know they waffled on which way to go, but they seem to be falling farther behind now, though they are close enough to Puma and Telefonica that I'd think they were seeing the same winds. That's likely not true now that they've fallen so far behind.
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Well, they have to take an option but it does not seem to be that they are in trouble and meanwhile they had won 120nm to the pack and still counting

Groupama’s bold call to split with the fleet and sail a more direct route close to the African shoreline appeared to be paying off this morning, with media crew member (MCM) Yann Riou describing last night as a “magic night” on board the boat.

“A full moon, no cloud, temperature of 20 degrees. Downwind between 10 and 15 knots - a delight,” Riou wrote in an overnight blog. “We might have less fun if the others get 200 miles ahead of us, but right now, we are enjoying it.”

Whether Groupama’s gamble pays off depends on whether they can break away from dying wind corridor close to the shore and find the stronger, more consistent tradewinds, before their rivals do. Team Telefonica, PUMA Ocean Racing powered by BERG and CAMPER with Emirates Team New Zealand all opted to punch west into the Atlantic in search of stronger breeze.

Riou said the Groupama team had big decisions ahead of them that could prove vital to their success in the leg.

“The latest routing is not very good for us because of a break in the trades, in the south. In a few hours we will have to make a key choice for our race. Meanwhile we are still focused, careful to make the boat move as well as possible and waiting for the next weather forecast.”


They have two options: Going to Cabo Verde and then west or turn now to the west. The two options will give them good winds. The first option will give them slower winds but probably an easier passage on the doldrums the second one more speed but a more problematic passage on the doldrums.

For me the less risky is to go west now. That way they would be converging with the pack, they would stay well ahead and could control them.

It's a hard choice because you can lose a lot of time on the doldrums and things are unpredictable on that region, you can win or lose a lot depending only on luck.

anyway, very interesting. The race would be a lot more boring without Groupama. Cammas is a very good addiction to this race.

Take a look at the med: Abu Dhabi is already on its way to the Atlantic:

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250nm is the distance that separates Groupama from the second but I think that the Groupama is not going to win anymore and will start to lose about 120nm a day for a day and a half or so. After that the conditions should be around the same, but who knows for sure?

That lead is going to much smaller in two days...and we will see if in 3 days they are still leading. When you have two radically different course options the wins and losses can be huge but that make also a much more interesting race!!!

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Some time ago I remember on this forum a discussion about the Americas'cup to be or not a nations competition instead a club competition with mercenaries from all nations racing to whom was paying more.

Let's look at that perspective at the Volvo Ocean Race teams:

We will see that the Chinese team has one Chinese, that the Arab team has two Arabs and that only three team has a majority of sailors from the country from where the Sponsor is: The French with Groupama with 9 French sailors, the Telefonica from Spain with 7 Spannish sailors and the Camper/Emirates team Newzeland, a mixed team that has 7 kiwis, only one spannish but an Australian Skipper and that disqualifies it a bit.

So we have truly a Spanish team, a French team and mercenaries

Another curiosity is that the French team, contrary to all other teams, has many sailors (I would say the best, including the skipper) without any participation on the Volvo Race. The Majority are rookies on this race. Only two guys with a lot of experience on this race, one with 3 volvo, another with three.

Also very curious is that the majority of those French has a lot more experience as solo or short crew racers than as a team racing. One of them came directly from the minis and several have more experience in multihulls than in monohulls.

That's a curious bunch of guys, all very experienced and fast sailors, but mostly new to big monohull crew racing.

All that has not prevented them to be competitive from the start. Let's see if that is going to be like that for the rest of the race

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Groupama is converging now, going to pass near Cabo Verde and has expected its lead almost vanished but the chasing pack is only going to gain more miles in the next 12 hours. That should be enough for Puma and Telefonica to pass ahead.

Next days are more complicated and perhaps a bit more favorable to Groupama.
They should converge really close and its difficult to say who is going to arrive first ant the doldrums.

Really interesting

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Go Mar Mostro!!!

This is going to be a hell of a race.
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Paulo,

I remember following the '98 race, back when it was still called the Whitbread. We were watching early early internet video, seeing the boats then (way slower than today's) blasting along at 25 knots and thinking, "Dear God, who ever heard of going that fast in a sailboat?!"

Awesome stuff, loved in then and love it now.

Thanks for the updates/commentary, have to get more into following the latest on this race (heck, I've been swamped with work, didn't even realize the race had started!)
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Go Mar Mostro!!!

This is going to be a hell of a race.
Why do you like a mercenaries team were only $$$$ counts?

I push for one of the "National" teams to win, the Spannish or the French. Now it seems that only the Spannish on Telefonica have a breack, besides I like a lot their two Basque skippers so:

GO TELEFONICA GO!!!!
(that's an odd and ugly name for a boat)

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