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Like I said over at SA - this Leg is seriously wanky. Because they're all being picked up by a ship - with obviously a limited time window, they're going to stick together somewhat until the rendezvous. And this means, it's not really a race right now.

It'll be better after Abu Dhabi.

In the mean time...wanky.
That ship thing is crazy. I mean I don't know if you are right regarding someone picking them, they have said so but there is no gate, they are well spread up and certainly it is a race.



The guys from camper seem pretty well beaten up while the guys in Groupama seem quite fresh. It is going to be interesting to see if the fact the French guys are mostly solo sailors with a bigger endurance will bring then an advantage when things become though.

If they are to be picked up it will have to be in some port, but the way they are spread it has to be at a considerable distance from here they are. I would not be surprised if they went to Ceylon or India to be pick up to near Abu Dabi.

I really don't understand why they give the lead to Telefonica. Camper seems to be better placed and Groupama does not seam to be in last

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Well, yeah, this leg and leg 3 don't have the length and sea room freedom they oughtta have, so it's a different character. But the short legs do make for tight, intense racing. Once you make a wrong call on a big leg and get a hundred miles or more behind the leader, it becomes a foregone conclusion.

I'm sure they'd rather just dodge the whole thing, but if a wealthy Arabian principality offers a bunch of dough to have your international yacht race stop by for a visit, in a majorly down economy ...
Well, the points are the same, being shorter does not matter, just make it more intense as you say.

A bunch of dough? They have offered more than that, they have contributed with a boat to the race

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Does anybody understand what Cammas is trying to do? I have tried to understand, run the weather forecast back and forward, and I don't get it

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Does anybody understand what Cammas is trying to do? I have tried to understand, run the weather forecast back and forward, and I don't get it
Find wind to get East as quick as possible, and hope that popping into the new weather system will let them run North fast enough for it to pay off.

Doesn't seem to be working because the system curves SE, so the front is further away from them...
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It is going to be interesting to see if the fact the French guys are mostly solo sailors with a bigger endurance will bring then an advantage when things become though.
This is a great point. I'd not really thought about that aspect of solo-born endurance.


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Interesting race with everybody looking for wind

I only started now to see what Groupama wants going so much south, but the advantage will happen only in 30 hours and I don't know if they are going to win enough to compensate, probably not but that is thinking really ahead or it is just me that cannot think a week ahead in what regards weather.

Very tactical and interesting race, like a chess game

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The "Stealth Zone"

What is going to happen in the "Stealth Zone"

I presume they will sail through this irrespective of the pirate dangers?
Will each boat have "protection" from navy/others? Will the positions be reported on the web?

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What is going to happen in the "Stealth Zone"

I presume they will sail through this irrespective of the pirate dangers?
Will each boat have "protection" from navy/others? Will the positions be reported on the web?
The entire fleet is going to be loaded onto an armed ship at an undisclosed port they're heading to now - no kidding. They'll then be dropped back into the water for a sprint into AD.

Go to the VOR site and look under News for the Piracy Plan story.

It's completely ridonculous.

SA has a great thread going on about the race. Some of the guys over there are doing some insane math to try to figure out this mystery location.


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I bet that it is in India, probably Thoothukudi.
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Smack, I guess you are right: Those boats are too fragile. Sanya is going to Madagascar for repairs with a lose middle stay and Abu Dhabi has also with problems on the mast fixation.

Jesus they have not even got yet a storm or really bad weather and are already breaking a lot.




Regarding Groupama not bad but I don't know if they will have an advantage. They have less wind but from a slightly better angle. It will be interesting to see if it compensates.

Anyway, great gamble, it will be very interesting to follow. Pity the problem with Sanya, it looked that their strategy was a good one in what regards course and speed.

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