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Yes, Adam's right there.. by the time the call was made to abandon the race there were really only a handful of boats actually still racing. I'm not saying that the decision to abandon wasn't the right one, but agreeing with Adam that most skippers (in actuality, probably ALL skippers & crews) had already made their own call as to whether to bail or carry on. For the most part it appears that most of those choosing to carry on were well equipped to do so.
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I had heard that Incisor has potentially been located the vessel and was going to be recovered today.

I've appreciated reading this thread (my intro to Sailnet) for news on the race, and found the points about a 24 hour foul-weather delay for the racing instructions quite interesting with the addition of a pre-determined shortened-course. Boats could be in late Saturday and still be good for delivery to home ports on Sunday. I also was intrigued by the "the race will not occur with forecast winds over XX knots" as a potential clause.
Hey pit - welcome to SN. On the "XX knots" clause - to me that doesn't make sense in an offshore ocean race...which, from what I understand is the category for this race.

Heavy weather is part of the offshore race mix. I think you'd be opening a can of worms starting to try to define at what point things are "dangerous", and conversely at what point they are "safe".
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I sailed Fridays SSR aboard the Contessa 32 with new sails and rig and a salty seasoned crew. We were still racing ,trying to beat upwind to the second mark when the race was canceled.We had been pooped once when a wave decided to fall on us, but in good spirits were carrying on with storm jib and dbl reefed main. At the skippers meeting it was 35 to 40, easing to 25 to 30 SW by 1600. Nothing we hadn't seen before on passages to California, but I don't think we would have gone if anyone had mentioned 60 knots at Halibut Bank. The walls of water beside the boat blocked my GPS signals at times.
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Hey liv - welcome to SN dude. Seriously impressive work to keep it together out there. Glad you guys made it through okay.

How did the Contessa handle? And, aside from the sail plan, what else would you advise on handling a boat/crew those conditions?

There are a lot of us here that are really into learning about heavy weather strategies - and you guys now have a great deal of knowledge to share.
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Instead of an "XX knots" rule stating that the race must be canceled, how about an "I told you so" prize for first boat to withdraw and make it to safe harbor once the wind is above XX knots?
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I hope you don't mind me Quoting you over here...Yours and Wung's post just reverberated with me and I could not resist..

I know you two know your stuff so felt it was relevant to this discussion over here.

Hope you pop in and share some of that with us now and then...I get a headache over there...

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Hi smackdaddy..
Much of Blue Blaze's and Contessa 32's ability in heavy weather can be atributed to the fact that they are stiff boats. My friend Willy Ker's C32 Assent was the only finisher in the small boat class in the 79 Fastnet. He singlehanded her while writing the pilot for the Faroes, Greenland, and Iceland, not to mention cruising aboard her to Antarctica, the Arctic and Russia. John Kretchmer sailed his around the horn to San Francisco challenging the clipper ship record. Closer to home, The BC based Contessa, Floating Point, with only Guy Druce aboard completed a non stop circumnavigation. If you don't mind being wet, they sail very well indeed, having affectionately been called" submarines with sails". They give up light air performance to their modern sisters, and are very cozy below for a crew of four. That being said, as we verified on Friday, they are very comfortable and balanced snaking their way to weather in large seas and wind.
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I was one of the crew members on Blue Blaze, the contessa 32.
We had a great ride; the contessa was a lovely boat to sail in these conditions. I spent about an hour before we rounded Halibut bank trying to decide what to cook for dinner Saturday evening, my dilemma was beef or lamb roast. I posed the question to the crew, who unanimously noted that lamb would be a nice touch especially if it resembled the last one we had all eaten.
After rounding Halibut bank we were hit with 55 knot gusts coupled with extremely large waves;it was only a matter of time before we got "pooped". The boat went over about 30 degrees, being on the low side I got the worst of the dunking, and when Blue blaze had finished laughing at us, we started to bail out quite a few gallons of water from the cockpit. The scuppers took it out faster than we could bail as the stern lifted again for another dance with the waves; the skippers comment that he normally preferred to bath alone was quite uncharitable I thought!
We decided to head for Nanoose bay to anchor until the wind abated a little, hammering into the walls of water seamed silly when we could take the time to get on some dry clothes and have a little rest. If we had been thrown a fish or two while constantly being doused with water, we might have taken a different view but the waves were spewing salt spray constantly and it was difficult to see anything, at least before pooping the old dodger, from that enormous rogue wave , we had some protection from the spray.
We agreed that we would weigh anchor slog to Nanaimo and then back to Vancouver as soon as we had a reprieve. We were quite surprised to hear the race had been cancelled; now we have to wait another year to show you all what the old tub is made of............
Once anchored I asked the boys to take off their wellies so I could start the dry out process. I poured about 1/2 a liter of salty water out of all of them.
We spent the night listing to the strangest sounds..subs we thought.
The next day was beautiful weather, and a lovely ride back to Vancouver.
I didn't do a roast in the end, we went to our favourite Thai restaurant instead.
Well done to all that sailed!

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Jeez - you guys are a breath of fresh air. I gotta say.

We're always stressin' out over the JSD/Seabrake/Scopolamine combo at 20 around here!

Beef or lamb in fitty knots? Love it.
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