How often to get new sails on a J-29? - SailNet Community
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 7 Old 08-24-2011 Thread Starter
Ryan Heaslip BurlingtonVT
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Burlington, Vermont
Posts: 5
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
How often to get new sails on a J-29?

Some of my competitors that I sail against on Lake Champlain in Vermont seem to get new sails every year.

Any idea how much new sails are worth in seconds per mile?

It's difficult for me to comprehend because "all things are not equal." In Vermont on Lake Champlain the air can be very light, so I'm assuming new sails are very valuable.
Ryan Heaslip is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 7 Old 08-24-2011
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 16,207
Thanks: 193
Thanked 192 Times in 184 Posts
Rep Power: 0
     
Okay, I couldn't answer the spin set-up question (ignorance). But this one...I got:

Every season. Otherwise your crew thinks you're cheap. And, any bag whatsoever = slow.

All things are not equal if you're losing.
smackdaddy is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #3 of 7 Old 08-24-2011 Thread Starter
Ryan Heaslip BurlingtonVT
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Burlington, Vermont
Posts: 5
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
Well said, well said....maybe I can take up a collection from my crew?

Doubtful!

As far as "all things being equal" I kind of meant is it the sails or does the other boat have better crew or is doing something different/better. It's tricky sailing in Vermont as the winds are fickle.

I would agree though, probably best to replace the sails every year.
Ryan Heaslip is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #4 of 7 Old 08-24-2011
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 16,207
Thanks: 193
Thanked 192 Times in 184 Posts
Rep Power: 0
     
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan Heaslip View Post
Well said, well said....maybe I can take up a collection from my crew?

Doubtful!

As far as "all things being equal" I kind of meant is it the sails or does the other boat have better crew or is doing something different/better. It's tricky sailing in Vermont as the winds are fickle.

I would agree though, probably best to replace the sails every year.
What I've found in the very limited racing I've done is that it's the crew/skipper over the sails in most beer cans.

However, if you're racing real racers, you better have good crew AND good gear. Every 1000th counts.
smackdaddy is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #5 of 7 Old 08-24-2011
Senior Member
 
Gary M's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Sarnia ON
Posts: 695
Thanks: 3
Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts
Rep Power: 11
 
It depends greatly on what level of racing your fleet is at. Generally I feel that to be competitive in a decent fleet you should buy one sail a year. YMMV.

I bought a decent race boat 5 years ago but the sails were done. It has taken me this long to get a respectable set of sails on her. Unfortunately I blew out my better spinnaker tonight

Crew work and boat smarts are a huge part of it but you need reasonable sails.

Good Luck
Gary M is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #6 of 7 Old 08-25-2011
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,370
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 11
 
Gary's advice is pretty much it for most phrf racing. One sail per year if you can, but make the main (particularly for a J-29 frac rig!) and the most commonly used jib for your venue the priorities. Sails make a big difference, but don't bother if the bottom of your boat isn't clean! Many one design classes, if it applies, have sail limits including size, material, and how many can be purchased in a calendar year.

Last edited by puddinlegs; 08-25-2011 at 01:40 AM.
puddinlegs is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #7 of 7 Old 10-12-2011
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: portland oregon
Posts: 106
Thanks: 4
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 6
 
I have been racing on the same boat for 5 years, we have 2 mains 4 jibs and 3 spinnakers. This does not include the storm sails. all sails are over 5 years old and we still come in first most of the time. Old crew and old sails work good together.
luck66 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Reply

Tags
burlington , j29 , lake champlain , vermont

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.


User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
FX sails? ncsc General Discussion (sailing related) 20 03-28-2012 09:13 PM
North Sails vs North Sails Direct DrB Gear & Maintenance 0 06-25-2009 09:00 PM
Looking for Old Sails in FL kananumpua Gear & Maintenance 3 06-09-2009 02:38 PM
What's with all the sails? HoffaLives General Discussion (sailing related) 12 08-13-2007 11:43 PM
Teralani Sailing Adventures - Snorkel Sails, Sunset Sails and Whale Watched from Kaanapali Beach, Maui (About.com) NewsReader News Feeds 0 10-06-2006 11:15 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome