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Re: Good starting boat with some speed, but forgiving while learning as well?

Thanks for all the suggestions everyone.

So I guess I should have stated it at the start, but my budget is only about 1000-1500. I don't want to go spending a lot of money on a boat only to find out I don't enjoy it as much as I think I will. As for location, I'm in the SF Bay Area, so that would be my principal sailing location.

I know everyone keeps touting the Laser, but I know for myself I want two sails. As well, I do want to be able to go out with someone on the water, even if they don't help with the boat, and a Laser isn't going to be very comfortable for that. Lol.

But to answer you overbored, no, I haven't done any sailing on my own. Lol. However the Taser, the Viper, VX One, Hobie 16 look both manageable and capable as I get better.
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The new input on location and budget makes a big difference. There are lots of different dinghy fleets on SFO Bay. The "hot" boats mentioned so far, like the Viper or 49er will not be available in your price range unless you have to raise them from where they got run over by a ferry or a truck. Used 420's or Vanguards will possibly meet your pricing, but they will be quite used. You might also find a Thistle or 505 if a slightly more stable platform would suit your learning curve better. Look around, talk to the skppers and crews out there, and see which group fits best - boat/price/and people-wise with you.
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Go talk to someone from the Richmond Yacht Club for both suggestions and what might be available locally. Laser is still your best bet for shortening the learning curve.

Two sails, maybe you can find an old 470 or Fireball. You'll get your butt kicked for awhile, but so long as you have the right clothing for the water temps, you'll live.
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Well I know budget and experience both exclude me from getting something like a Viper or 49er right now, and I wasn't about to go wasting money like that anyways with no experience.

There is however a pretty decent looking Hobie 16 in my area though.

That was funny though puddinlegs about the right clothing though. Certainly not afraid about getting wet.
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It's not about getting wet. In SFO it's about getting cold. Look up Larry Klein.
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SF Bay ?

$1,500 ?

Find a Lido 14 on Craigslist. You will have a lot of fun, in the heavy air of SF Bay you'll plane easily enough to get your jollies, but you'll also stay a lot drier than with other small Boats.

Larry Ellison learned to sail on Lido 14s in SF Bay.
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Ultimate 20

There are 250 made, so relatively easy to find a good used boat at fair price. It is only 1250 lbs can be towed behind a family sedan. Park in driveway.

fast and forgiving sportboat. Great class support
Yes if you can find one of these they are a blast. They were built using the hull mold from the Hotfoot 20, which I used to own. They are very easy to trailer and once you learn how to sail them they are very fast!

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...and you will never get one for $1500.oo unless your grandmother sells it to you.
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SF Bay ?

$1,500 ?

Find a Lido 14 on Craigslist. You will have a lot of fun, in the heavy air of SF Bay you'll plane easily enough to get your jollies, but you'll also stay a lot drier than with other small Boats.

Larry Ellison learned to sail on Lido 14s in SF Bay.
I've sailed on Lido's in SF. Nothing under 40' is dry in SF.
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Re: Good starting boat with some speed, but forgiving while learning as well?

Eh, a little water won't hurt. It'd be kind of silly to think you won't get wet at all, unless yeah, you were on a large boat. I'm definitely leaning towards that Hobie 16 catamaran though. Saw one posted with outrigger benches recently too.
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