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Re: dnf because of county police boat?

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We used to invite them to the Night Before party to go over course and safety, but mostly to gain their trust and cooperation.

Once they realize how serious many racers are, and their level of skill, they are more likely to be a help. They will show up for a free dinner, and might even learn a little about sailboats, as they often know absolutely nothing about them.
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yeah ... but .... on the Hudson, you might be dealing with Sheriff departments from 4 different counties, may two or three town police, not to mention the Coast Guard. you'd go broke quick inviting them all to a party!
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dnf because of county police boat?

Lessons learned
1) don't assume that just because you are racing that others know what you are doing.
2) a call on VHF would have been a great idea if the hand held was in reach.
3) it is amazing what people who were not there assume
4) Leo are just doing their job
5) nyack folks rock

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Re: dnf because of county police boat?

Unfortunately around here most LEO's on the water tend to be auxiliary officers and have zero boat handling skills and limited knowledge of the COLREGs or other rules. They dont pull alongside so often that it is problematic and usually are only concerned about alcohol and life jackets. Fortunately they rarely have an attitude unless you have one.

Sounds like this guy was power tripping but the skipper probably could have hollered his intentions given how close they must have been.
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Re: dnf because of county police boat?

Caleb, it definitely sounds like the racer ducked and weaved near the police boat, and the po'd the watercops and it escalated from there.

FWIW, if the official NOAA charts don't mark something as a named channel--it isn't a channel, no matter what the locals call it. You can't be cited for violating a "channel" unless it is legally marked as one on the charts. (Well, you can be cited, but you can get that thrown out by simply pointing out it is incorrect. And then the idiot who wrote it can earn brownie points on his permanent record.)

Lots of upstate NY is political. The lack of qualifications for local justices has made the national news, and the State doesn't want to change it. Local PDs and POs...let's just say there's a reason the State Police consider themselves to be cut from a different cloth than most of the locals including county pd's.

Darting back and forth around a cop of any kind, not a smart idea, on land or sea though.

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Lots of upstate NY is political. The lack of qualifications for local justices has made the national news, and the State doesn't want to change it..[/QUOTE]

I agree 100%. NY has terrible town judges. The worst idiots you will ever stand in front of. Be very afraid.

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Re: dnf because of county police boat?

I personally got to experience the result of a slow night in Baltimore's Inner Harbour when I got stopped and boarded by the USCG for a "safety inspection" literally insight of where we were going to tie up for the night. As the boarding officer was filling out the paperwork (we passed the inspection), he asked me if my sailboat was a monohull or catamaran. It was all I could do to reply "monohull" without any snide commentary...
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Re: dnf because of county police boat?

Monohull or a .... No, its a "hoodie". You know, "be on the lookout for a black male in a hoodie"? Well, this is a hoodie. Honest. Just fill it in, don't worry about the little checkboxes.

Kinda sounds like the lines about "blind justice" in Alice's Restaurant, doesn't it?
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Yep, wish I had snapped an 8 x 10 color glossy photograph!
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Re: dnf because of county police boat?

I hate to even mention, but my local PD ( on the Hudson) has 2 30 foot twin engine police boats and ---they just got 2 more this spring, even bigger and faster.

Gotta justify that homeland security money.....somehow

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Re: dnf because of county police boat?

Actually it is hard not to justify the local authorities having the fastest boats. Since Prohibition the bad guys have tried to outrun the good guys and they've always been able to do so because "crime pays" and the money for faster boats and bigger engines doesn't have to get past some budget committee.

In the badboy Miami Vice days the USCG on LI Sound used to keep chasing a gofast boat they could never catch. Until Mr. Gofast stuffed a deadhead through his hull one dark night. That's typical, kevlar hulls cost even more money and they were still almost unheard of back then.

But whether it is trying to get to MOBs before they drown (that Hudson gets cold in the winter) or catch bad guys, it is hard to see why "more speed" wouldn't be a very good thing.

And they can make extra donut money by giving the tourists jet boat rides in the summer. :-)
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