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Sovereign 28

Hi! I read that the Sovereigns are essentially "updated" S2's, so I thought I'd ask here if anyone has ever sailed on the 28 center cockpit, and what your general feeling was of the boat. It looks interesting, but I'm a little nervous about the BMW D12 diesel that apparently came with the boat.

Any feedback on the boat or that engine is appreciated!
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Re: Sovereign 28

Difficult to get a CC and good looks in a 28 foot length.. even considering it's been 'stretched' a bit from the original S2 8.0 (meters ~ 26 feet). The layout, however, looks pretty good for a cozy couple and the fit and finish on the ones available online look reasonably good. Longish keel but S2 designs generally had a decent rep. Not sure if G&S did all their boats, but they did the racing hulls and they go very well.

Regarding the BMW I think they are pretty good engines, but rare as hens teeth in
N.A. and perhaps for that reason difficult to find service and/or parts.
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Thanks, that was my impression of the boats. Glad to hear a contrarian view on the BMW; some of what I had read were negative. Not overly so, but complaints.
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Re: Sovereign 28

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Thanks, that was my impression of the boats. Glad to hear a contrarian view on the BMW; some of what I had read were negative. Not overly so, but complaints.
I looked at an S2 8.0A years ago with a BMW diesel. I ran away. Don't be fooled...the marinized BMW engines of 25 years ago ought not be deemed to have quality equivalence to a new 700 series BMW auto (in fact, most Germans I know, and I know a lot, scoff at BMW quality anyway, relative to MB and Audi.)

No, repeat no, real support for these engines in the US right now. It might run like a champ for the next 20 years, who knows?...if it craps out, good luck with service, and a replacement might cost more than you paid for the boat. Parts might be hard to come by.

Ya pays yer money and ya takes yer chances.
My $0.02 worth. I'd run.

PS. Never heard that thing about the Sovereigns...interesting.
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