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Re: Sabre 28/30 for a newer sailor?

My wife and I purchased a 1986 Sabre 30 III last fall - our first boat, after two years of learning in dinghies of various types. Like you, we were attracted to the overall build quality, and I also like the somewhat better sailing characteristics compared to the admittedly roomier Catalina 30.

If you're looking at the 30s, I think you'll have a tough time finding what you want for $25k, but maybe you'll have better luck than we did. We purchased last October, maybe cheaper this time of year? Our hull, deck, engine and sails were all in great shape (ok, just good for the sails), but we needed to do some rigging work, and a lot of the plumbing had been neglected. We bought the cheapest version we could find that had the big four (hull, deck, engine, sails) well maintained, and we've ended up investing a fair amount more money and time in fixing a lot of the creature comfort bits that had not been properly cared for. At this point, I ask myself whether or not we saved any money going with the low price option. I think the answer is no, but I at least know that everything that I've fixed is in great shape now rather than hoping that we wouldn't discover hidden problems with a boat that appeared to be turn-key. Of course, your mileage may vary...

In any case, I'm happy to share more about our experience. Drop me a PM if you like.
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My wife and I purchased a 1986 Sabre 30 III last fall - our first boat, after two years of learning in dinghies of various types. Like you, we were attracted to the overall build quality, and I also like the somewhat better sailing characteristics compared to the admittedly roomier Catalina 30.

If you're looking at the 30s, I think you'll have a tough time finding what you want for $25k, but maybe you'll have better luck than we did. We purchased last October, maybe cheaper this time of year? Our hull, deck, engine and sails were all in great shape (ok, just good for the sails), but we needed to do some rigging work, and a lot of the plumbing had been neglected. We bought the cheapest version we could find that had the big four (hull, deck, engine, sails) well maintained, and we've ended up investing a fair amount more money and time in fixing a lot of the creature comfort bits that had not been properly cared for. At this point, I ask myself whether or not we saved any money going with the low price option. I think the answer is no, but I at least know that everything that I've fixed is in great shape now rather than hoping that we wouldn't discover hidden problems with a boat that appeared to be turn-key. Of course, your mileage may vary...

In any case, I'm happy to share more about our experience. Drop me a PM if you like.
This sums up my entire fear with an older boat...
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In any case, I'm happy to share more about our experience. Drop me a PM if you like.
I'd love to hear more, btw, but PM requires more posts than I have... and I'd sooner not spam the forum just to get my post count up.
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Re: Sabre 28/30 for a newer sailor?

Just be sure whether it's a 28 or a 30 it isn't suffering from Sabre rot.
Chain plate leaks over the years takes it's toll on the salon bulkheads & mast compression post step.
There was a 30 for sale in Salem, MA for 15K, don't know what shape it's in.

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I'd love to hear more, btw, but PM requires more posts than I have... and I'd sooner not spam the forum just to get my post count up.
I just sent you a PM. I wonder if you can reply - even if you can't post?

In any case, I left my cell number. Perhaps we'll chat soon.
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Re: Sabre 28/30 for a newer sailor?

We moved up from a 22' sailboat to a 28' sailboat without any issues, and have been a huge fan of the extra room/displacement...however, with a new addition to the family we will be looking to move up in a few years. That said, I don't think 28' would be to much to handle for a couple as their first "real" sailboat. With a budget of $25K, you could likely look at an early 90's Catalina 28...we have a late 90's C-28 and have been very happy with her...don't believe all the naysayers and their anti Hunter/Beneteau/Catalina stance...they are great boats for their purpose...coastal cruising...and since you likely won't be crossing any oceans on a 28' boat...they should suit just fine...they can be lower in cost which generally means you can purchase a newer version...as far as I'm concerned, newer = less headaches. If you have plenty of time and like the DIY aspect, and older boat is great...but for those with less time, it's just not for me...
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Re: Sabre 28/30 for a newer sailor?

From what I see, on the left coast at least, his budget is fine for a 28-30 ft but OP I'd also include a the Catalina 27 in your searches as well...
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From what I see, on the left coast at least, his budget is fine for a 28-30 ft but OP I'd also include a the Catalina 27 in your searches as well...
How would I find a C27 or C30 versus a Sabre 28 or 30? Slower, more comfortable, less well built?
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Re: Sabre 28/30 for a newer sailor?

I don't have a lot of experience on the C30, but - from what I've read - I'd add flatter or "less likely to heal" or "more weatherhelm" or however you'd like to describe it to your original list. The C30s are definitely roomier - both inside and in the cockpit, and the newer ones have a nice walk through transom that I think is an attractive feature. I'd also comment that there are a zillion C30s out there, so parts, advice and resale are all reportedly good with these craft.
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