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klshoreguy 07-28-2012 12:33 PM

I like this Sabre 28 BUT.....
 
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I was looking at a Sabre 28 yesterday and came away really impressed with the whole boat design and reviews. Took some pictures but there are two things that really concern me regarding this Sabre and has to do with the Chainplates which show signs of water intrusion and the cabin floor (one of the bilge covers falls into the bilge as it looks like the supporting board is gone. See pictures.

Seems like a good price so maybe it's just too good to be true. The rest of the boat looks great and I do not see water intrusion anywhere else. All doors close perfectly but the mast is down as the boat is on the hard.

Thanks for any comments suggestions. I don't want to throw away $3-500 on a survey just to be told everything needs to be redone. BTW...how much to re-do the sole and bulkheads?

Tempest 07-28-2012 01:08 PM

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The photos concern me too! I would bet that you have bulkhead rot judging by those leaks.
Can you get at them with an ice-pick and see if you can tell how bad. Or sound them out.

With the mast down and no tension on the shrouds, the hull might not reveal it. But if the rig were up and tuned, it could show dimples in the hull around any weak bulkheads.

With the floor, you'd have to open it up and see if the stringers were affected..I'm guessing so...

Cost to fix, depends on who's dong the work. At yard rates of $90.00/ hour you could be looking at a very hefty tab. If you do all the old removal, cut new bulkheads, grind out the old tabbing yourself you could save a few bucks. ( you might want to get a pattern from the old bulkhead before you knock it out)

Then you'd have to tab in the new. Chainplates could have some corrosion, you'd have to pull them to see. The core and deck could be wet and soft around the penetrations. You could sound that out now. I would be very careful, unless the price reflects the amount of potential remediation that you would be facing. The good news is, that if you were to do this work and everything else looks good, you would have a nice sabre.

Though, someone who let this damage occur might likely ignore a number of other things.
So I'd look everywhere. Caveat emptor.

klshoreguy 07-28-2012 01:18 PM

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My thoughts exactly. Thanks. The wife wanted to put an offer in and these photos kept me up at night. If I decide to tackle a large project I'll need a bigger boat.

kd3pc 07-28-2012 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 902389)
Though, someone who let this damage occur might likely ignore a number of other things.
So I'd look everywhere. Caveat emptor.

Tempest is dead on with this...could easily be more than what the boat is selling for....and you will not know what is bad, until you get in to it, and by then you are committed....

IF you are good at boat woodwork, have the tools and a place to work....I might consider it.....

but with MANY similar boats for sale....I would look elsewhere....

Yahoo sabre group has an active group of experts. And Sabreman here on SN, can tell you how much work it can be, as he did a ton on his 38....and it is near flawless

bljones 07-28-2012 03:06 PM

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Run. Fast. And far.
That is the kind of rot that will break your heart, because it is just the tip of the iceberg.

bljones 07-28-2012 03:22 PM

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This one might be wroth travelling to see and the cost of transport to you will be a hell of a lot cheaper than the cost to repair the sponge you just looked at.
Swans Yacht Sales (Pickering, ON)

klshoreguy 07-28-2012 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bljones (Post 902417)
This one might be wroth travelling to see and the cost of transport to you will be a hell of a lot cheaper than the cost to repair the sponge you just looked at.
Swans Yacht Sales (Pickering, ON)

Yeah. That looks much better. The sad part is the boat that has the rot is an 1982.

klshoreguy 08-08-2012 12:02 PM

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So looks my Sabre dreams are on hold for the next few years. Just bought at Pearson 303 and am picking her up tomorrow for a cruise downs the New England coast to Long Island Sound.

Thanks for keeping me away from that Sabre 28....

miatapaul 08-08-2012 12:46 PM

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I just looked at a Pearson 303, and I really liked it. Good luck with it.

Sabreman 08-16-2012 12:13 PM

I like this Sabre 28 BUT.....
 
Just found this thread. PM me for more info than you'd like on this vintage Sabre. Great boats.


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