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Alright guys, a few days ago I first saw this Columbia 36, I found the owner and he is willing to sell, he just said make an offer. The engine was said to be in great condition (volvo) when it was last used...3 years ago. She's sat in the water without moving since then. One soft spot on the deck starboard forward. Other than that the owner reports no water inside and no other issues. She's dirty, the keel bolts have some rust, but we're re enforced and the keel is glassed to the hull. He's not too interested in keeping it, and if I don't take it off his hands it will still sit. I have to go in the morning on board and have a good look see, but as is, without survey or knowledge of what all it comes with. What's she worth? What's a reasonable offer without being insulting on price? I'm wanting to keep it low. I sail on a budget. Any advice or knowledge is appreciated thank you in advance!
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Some close up/inside pics would really help . . . Really help . . .
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That comes tomorrow morning, from what I'm told there is no rotting, or physical damage inside. Just wanting a ballpark figure of what range to offer.
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Re: Need help what's it worth columbia 36

Without a survey, I doubt that anyone could place even a remotely close value on a boat that's been neglected that long.
More than likely even for free, this boat is probably not worth the price. Be very, very careful you don't get yourself into that proverbial hole in the ocean into which you throw your money.

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Re: Need help what's it worth columbia 36

On Yachtworld there are 9 listed with asking prices from $8500 to $34K with most in the $20K range. With the little info you've provided I'd guess this one is at the low end of that range - a lot lower when you factor in offer VS ask.

Try us again with pics & more info - did the engine run? What sails does it have? Iron keel? If so the bolts aren't a biggie - easily replaced.

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I will be meeting with the owner sometime this morning. I'll get a run down the end of everything that may be wrong with it ideally I really want to spend a thousand or less. I don't want it to be a lowball but there's really no telling what all needs to be done to it so I'm going to try to spend as little as I can to save anything else that I have left for repairs etc but I don't want to seem insulting trying to offer $1,000 or maybe a little more. I've seen similar boats in better shape go for around that price range.
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Depends on seller's desperation, but if the motor actually starts after all this time it's probably worth more than a grand, barring fatal flaws.

Do you feel lucky? If you end up with a turkey it'll cost you much more to get rid of it.

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He said the motor that's in it is a Volvo diesel that was replaced around 2002 I'm sure I could probably change the filters and put some fresh fuel and it may fire up you are correct about getting rid of it I don't want to get stuck with something that I'll never be able to get rid of if its too many problems structurally from the outside the boat looks fine now as far as his desperation I don't think he's desperate to get rid of it but whatever I offer him for it may be the most he ever gets offered for it ever again because if I don't buy it its just going to continue to sit
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Re: Need help what's it worth columbia 36

Keep in mind that Volvo's are very reliable engines, but parts are EXPENSIVE as all get out, and even worse often hard to get. Not like not able to get at all, but more like yea, we can get that but it will be 5 weeks and cost you your first born child, we will delever the wrong part the first time, then you get to wait another 5 weeks.

So if the motor does not start (take a jump box with you) then I would not be interested as a new one will cost as much as the boat is worth in good condition. As someone said how lucky do you feel. If the sails have been sitting for three years they will likely be shot too, that is going to set you back in the range of $6,000 or so for good new ones. (might be able to find used for a third of that) Cushions will be a couple grand if they are musty/moldy, it adds up really quickly.
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Re: Need help what's it worth columbia 36

Considering the offer I would assume the engine is shot and will need a total rebuild. Don't worry about insulting the guy with a lowball price. He will live. Lots of boats out there at reasonable prices. I would not offer more than 6 grand to start negotiations.

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