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Hello there, I'm a new member from Denmark. I am about to buy a 27 ft sailboat with junk rig, but it is homebuild boat. My problem is, that most of the boats that I see have two masts, or one mast that is really much up in front in the boat. The boat that I am looking at has the mast almost in the middle (I will attach a photo of it ). Can somebody please help me to figure out if it is normal? Will it balance well? Has anybody seen it before? I am new to sailing, but I am really passionate about it. Before I owned a beginners boat of 22 ft (bermuda rig) but now I want to try out something new.
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Re: Confused about junk rig mast

Perfectly normal, most boats under approximately 50 have only one mast, more or less "in the middle" or slightly further forward. The junk rig association (just Google " junk rig association") would also be a good source of info.....
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Re: Confused about junk rig mast

Wait for a day with good wind and have the owner take you for a test sail. If she can go upwind, then maybe it's a good rig.

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Okay thanks.. My greatest concern is the price.. it is home build, but i have all the photos taken during construction, and it looks like they know what they were doing it is a 27 ft from 2012 and the price is 2500$ Now boats in Denmark are pretty cheap compared to other countries, but it still looks too low a price.. What should i watch out for? is there any possibility that the junk rig cannot sail upwind at all, or will i just sail slow? I am planning on buying th boat one of these days, but i just would like some input as to whether it is a good deal, or whether i should stay away.? I will attach some photos.
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Re: Confused about junk rig mast

The advice above to visit the Junk Rig Association website is good advice. I recommend you start your reading there with the following discussion of Center of Effort and Center of Lateral Resistance...

http://www.junkrigassociation.org/Re...20SAILPLAN.pdf

...for a basic discussion of the elements that will allow you to determine if mast placement is satisfactory.

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Re: Confused about junk rig mast

What are your plans for this boat?

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Re: Confused about junk rig mast

It is hard to comment specifically on that particular design but it looks a lot like the general keel and rig configuration used on Blondie Hasler's junk rigged Folkboat 'Jester'. You might try to find profiles of Jester online and compare them to this boat. I can say from experience that like any catboat it is harder to get them to balance properly on all points of sail. While the rig might be balanced beating, they will change balance such that they develop weather helm when reaching. Also while junk rigs tend to reach pretty well, junk rigs are harder to trim for a beat, especially in heavier winds, and so do not point all that well.

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Re: Confused about junk rig mast

Search for "yacht teleport" on you tube. They have a similar vessel and a vlog of a lot of their artic passages.
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Re: Confused about junk rig mast

Some sites to begin your research;

The Junk Rig Association - HOME
Teleport Expeditions - Chris Bray & Jess Taunton
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My greatest concern is the price.. it is home build, but i have all the photos taken during construction, and it looks like they know what they were doing it is a 27 ft from 2012 and the price is 2500$ Now boats in Denmark are pretty cheap compared to other countries, but it still looks too low a price.. What should i watch out for? is there any possibility that the junk rig cannot sail upwind at all, or will i just sail slow? I am planning on buying th boat one of these days, but i just would like some input as to whether it is a good deal, or whether i should stay away.? I will attach some photos.</div> </div> <!-- END TEMPLATE: bbcode_quote -->well i cannot see photos, likely as you don't have enough posts, or it is my tablet. But the price does seem a but low. i would make sure it has been certified by whatever government office needs to. i know Europe can be strict. what is the construction fiberglass or wood? Keep in mind the low price is indicative of what the market thinks of home built boats. <br /> <br /> No junk or cat rig will go upwind as well as a sloop rig, but that may or nay not be an issue depending on your plans. Being different is cook, but not if it is just to be different and it limits where you can go. 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